Replacing speakers in Non-BA car... - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

jkemp16 · 04-04-2013, 12:04 PM

Has anyone replaced only the speakers (front, rear or both) without changing the radio or amplifying them? If so does it sound any different or will they need to be amplified?

darkrider01 · 04-04-2013, 02:29 PM

It's possible, but there are a lot of reasons why it's not recommended. Here's a little breakdown:

1. Stock head unit puts out less power per channel than the BA system, and the BA system might get you 15W per channel on a good day.

2. Stock speakers are most probably 2 ohm speakers (I don't remember exactly), so if you replace with aftermarket speakers (which are most often 4 ohm), you will be increasing impedance and therefore reducing the power output of your head unit (so then you're at around 10W per channel...).

So in short......if replacing the speakers, they really need to be amplified.

jeepguy_1980 · 04-04-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by darkrider01

It's possible, but there are a lot of reasons why it's not recommended. Here's a little breakdown:

1. Stock head unit puts out less power per channel than the BA system, and the BA system might get you 15W per channel on a good day.

2. Stock speakers are most probably 2 ohm speakers (I don't remember exactly), so if you replace with aftermarket speakers (which are most often 4 ohm), you will be increasing impedance and therefore reducing the power output of your head unit (so then you're at around 10W per channel...).

So in short......if replacing the speakers, they really need to be amplified.

The rear speakers are 4ohm in the non-BA Camaros. But the fronts are two 2 ohm speakers in parallel, equaling 2 ohms.

darkrider01 · 04-04-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

The rear speakers are 4ohm in the non-BA Camaros. But the fronts are two 2 ohm speakers in parallel, equaling 2 ohms.

I think you mean two 4 ohm speakers in parallel, but at any rate, the outcome will remain the same

jeepguy_1980 · 04-04-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by darkrider01

I think you mean two 4 ohm speakers in parallel, but at any rate, the outcome will remain the same

Yes. I was typing on my phone.

jkemp16 · 04-05-2013, 06:11 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated.

2010camarolt · 04-05-2013, 08:13 PM

not trying to thread jack! whats the best way to add new speakers and an amp? is the only option to run your own wires? I know ******** had a harness but he doesnt make it anymore

jeepguy_1980 · 04-05-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010camarolt

not trying to thread jack! whats the best way to add new speakers and an amp? is the only option to run your own wires? I know ******** had a harness but he doesnt make it anymore

Even with the ******** harness, you had to run wires. It's not that hard to run the wire. It probably adds 1 hour to the install, if you're not already taking the car apart. If you're adding rear speakers or Dynamat, it doesn't add anything to the install time. You have to pull the head unit, and the trim and route it under the back seat.

You can make the ******** harness yourself, if he doesn't offer it anymore. I have the original harness and consulted him in the design.

See this thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213330

jshaf · 04-06-2013, 07:56 PM

going in to the shop tomorrow to have front speakers replaced with 4ohm polk DXI 6500's and having new wires run from the 710W amp in the trunk. I have a non BA system and had the amp and sub done about a year ago, doing it a step at a time. the current fronts can get fairly loud but they are washed out and not very clear at the higher volumes, basically your gonna need more juice(amp) to power a louder and clearer speaker set up. replacing the speakers only might improve the sound slightly but the improvement is going to me minuscule!

chicagobulls · 04-07-2013, 01:49 AM

Just installed a powered sub (sub + amp in one) and It works awesome! I T-tapped into the rears and it sounds great!

jshaf · 04-07-2013, 04:57 PM

my install of the front speakers and wiring went great, the results are loud , clear and impressive. couldn't be happier

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jshaf Montani Semper Liberi Drives: 2011 Black 2SS/RS w/ IOM stripes Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Masontown, WV Posts: 4,841	my install of the front speakers and wiring went great, the results are loud , clear and impressive. couldn't be happier __________________ Stainless Works 1 7/8 Long Tude Headers, Stainless Works High Flow Cats, Stainless Works Retro Chambered Catback, Z/28 Air Intake, RDP Tuned, FR41 Chrome Rims, 1100W stereo, 35% Tint

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chicagobulls one car wolfpack Drives: 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,226	Just installed a powered sub (sub + amp in one) and It works awesome! I T-tapped into the rears and it sounds great!