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Old 06-23-2015, 08:23 PM   #1
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Question 1LE, BMR, Hotchkis, or JPSS Sways? V6

Hello all,

I almost purchased some BMR front and rear sways a few months ago but then lost the time to be able to install them. Now I finally have the time but I wanted to do some last minute research and get a good feeler to make sure I make the best purchase.

I don't want to drop the car and I only want to start off with front and rear sways. I plan to add a tower brace and end links as well. Input on these other pieces are welcomed as well!

What will give me the best handling improvement?

-1LE Sways (probably will find em used)
-BMR Sways
-Hotchkis Sways
-Justice Pete Sways
-LSR Sways

I need your input and real world experience. Plan to purchase soon.

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Old 06-23-2015, 09:52 PM   #2
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I'm actually gonna add LSR front and rear sways too
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:36 PM   #3
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That is easy to answer, who of those listed has dozens and dozens of engineers that are hired solely to make the camaro the best that it can be and then spent 10's of millions of $$$ proving it?
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:24 AM   #4
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That is easy to answer, who of those listed has dozens and dozens of engineers that are hired solely to make the camaro the best that it can be and then spent 10's of millions of $$$ proving it?
So your saying LSR .


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That is easy to answer, who of those listed has dozens and dozens of engineers that are hired solely to make the camaro the best that it can be and then spent 10's of millions of $$$ proving it?
The same ones who copy Justice Pete year after year...
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Old 06-24-2015, 07:49 AM   #6
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Whatever you do, I'd look at getting at least a 5mm size difference between them, so that the rear is at least 5mm larger than the front. If you go with the 1LE bars, I'd look at just getting the rear bar. most of the aftermarket setups seem to run around a 5mm split.
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Old 06-24-2015, 07:55 AM   #7
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Whatever you do, I'd look at getting at least a 5mm size difference between them, so that the rear is at least 5mm larger than the front. If you go with the 1LE bars, I'd look at just getting the rear bar. most of the aftermarket setups seem to run around a 5mm split.
I have a 1LE rear bar with a stock 2010 front bar, it made a noticeable improvement to the handling.

The one downside I have now though is that the inside rear tire will spin more on exiting corners on some autocross courses. The is obviously because of the sway bar lifting the inside tire. What I don't know is whether going with aftermarket front and rear bars would resolve this, or if I would still wind up with enough bias between front/rear that I wouldn't matter.

If aftermarket front/rear bars wouldn't fix that then my only other solution is coilovers and go with softer sways.

On track though I didn't have any issues with inside tire spin, it's so far only been on some autocross courses where there is a longish sweeping exit with a straight following.
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Well you know I'm going to say BMR. Plus your close, you can drive to Tampa, pick them up and be done!
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I'm actually gonna add LSR front and rear sways too
Back in 2009 we ran the biggest rear bar the OEM sway bar strap bolts could hold, 32mm. As soon as the new style out board arms were available we ran a 32mm rear bar, the biggest the OE hardware can handle. Fast forward to 2015 and you see that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

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Old 06-24-2015, 09:51 PM   #10
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Well you know I'm going to say BMR. Plus your close, you can drive to Tampa, pick them up and be done!
Would it be cheaper to come pick them up at your location? I can dig helping out the local company if there's a tiny bit of incentive
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That is easy to answer, who of those listed has dozens and dozens of engineers that are hired solely to make the camaro the best that it can be and then spent 10's of millions of $$$ proving it?
I think I just now read in another thread that there is actually more involved in putting the 1LE sways on the V6 suspension.

Does anyone have specifics? Do brakes have to be changed?
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I think I just now read in another thread that there is actually more involved in putting the 1LE sways on the V6 suspension.

Does anyone have specifics? Do brakes have to be changed?
To my knowledge, my out board mount JPSS rear sway bar is the only one that clears the banjo bolts on your V6 calipers.
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How does everyone else feel about the solid vs hollow sways? Any one have trouble with hollow sways?
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The early model year 5th Gens delivered with hollow bars. When they changed to the out board mount rear bar they also changed from hollow to solid bars.
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