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Old 06-27-2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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vararam claims???

Are people really getting the claims made by Vararam on the tune model?
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:05 PM   #2
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how about 375 RWHP with no other mods.
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:11 PM   #3
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:40 PM   #4
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Won't know numbers till July 7 but ass dyno said good gains lol
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:01 PM   #5
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Very few mods make their claimed HP. If every product made its claimed Hp, we'd be making 20hp from some catback exhausts.

Vararam claims 20-30hp (non tune) 25-35hp (tune only). It also claims 3-5 tenths in the 1/4 mile.

I'd say its good for .2 or 20hp on average. You'll most likely see about
15 peak hp, but you could see 25hp in the mid range. The HP under the curve (in the middle rpm range) is important and should be noted. Several owners and Maryland speed have track tested their Vararam intake and they saw around .2 on average. That would equate to around 20hp.

Also, dynos don't measure "ram air" affect the intake is getting at
80+ mph as you're going down the track. The Vararam intake design does a excellent job of putting outside air into the intake at speed.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:17 PM   #6
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Very few mods make their claimed HP. If every product made its claimed Hp, we'd be making 20hp from some catback exhausts.

Vararam claims 20-30hp (non tune) 25-35hp (tune only). It also claims 3-5 tenths in the 1/4 mile.

I'd say its good for .2 or 20hp on average. You'll most likely see about
15 peak hp, but you could see 25hp in the mid range. The HP under the curve (in the middle rpm range) is important and should be noted. Several owners and Maryland speed have track tested their Vararam intake and they saw around .2 on average. That would equate to around 20hp.

Also, dynos don't measure "ram air" affect the intake is getting at
80+ mph as you're going down the track. The Vararam intake design does a excellent job of putting outside air into the intake at speed.
Agree
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:47 PM   #7
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how about 375 RWHP with no other mods.
what dyno? thats about 25-30rwhp high. either you got the best L99 made or somethings awry. nice #,s though.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:07 PM   #8
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WE are talking tune model, all dyno's are different, temp., humidity, TUNER, all have effect. Tuner is same as Tom Henry uses. Original dyno was 305/300, tuned 327/340 BUT was on LOW OCTANE TABLE, added Vararam and did fuse pull and had tune CHECKED, not changed, 375 RWHP. Unlike others, low octane table is stock. Have you noticed that Tom's THR 2011 #1, LS3, headers, exhaust and Tune makes 475 HP. Now of course this is just hearsay if customer service from GM reads this, I made it all up.

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Old 06-27-2011, 08:31 PM   #9
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Very few mods make their claimed HP. If every product made its claimed Hp, we'd be making 20hp from some catback exhausts.

Vararam claims 20-30hp (non tune) 25-35hp (tune only). It also claims 3-5 tenths in the 1/4 mile.

I'd say its good for .2 or 20hp on average. You'll most likely see about
15 peak hp, but you could see 25hp in the mid range. The HP under the curve (in the middle rpm range) is important and should be noted. Several owners and Maryland speed have track tested their Vararam intake and they saw around .2 on average. That would equate to around 20hp.

Also, dynos don't measure "ram air" affect the intake is getting at
80+ mph as you're going down the track. The Vararam intake design does a excellent job of putting outside air into the intake at speed.
No offense but i'm playing the "bullshit card" on the HP gains and the supposed Ram Air effect. Neither are happening here sorry.
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:10 PM   #10
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seen a camaro at the gm car show over the weekend that had that intake on it. Looks like it get's cool air from the front grill. is that ware that intake gets it air from?
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:34 PM   #11
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The whole design of ram-air requires higher speeds to perform properly. The dyno probably won't measure the Vararams true HP output, since ram-air requires dense airflow entering the intake that becomes more and more relevant at higher speeds.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:34 AM   #12
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The whole design of ram-air requires higher speeds to perform properly. The dyno probably won't measure the Vararams true HP output, since ram-air requires dense airflow entering the intake that becomes more and more relevant at higher speeds.
Could always put a great big fan in front of the car while it's on the dyno to get some air moving into the intake.


xD Or put the dyno on the back of a flatbed trailer and tow it down the highway at 70.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:27 AM   #13
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Seems to me the track times would be the best measurement of how well these perform at speed. But I see no reason why they wouldn't dyno well. The airflow path is the shortest and straightest available, the IAT should be close to ambient, and it doesn't have to pull as hard to get the air it needs.


I don't do the track, haven't a lot of faith in dyno numbers, but I do know that daily driving sure is fun.
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No offense but i'm playing the "bullshit card" on the HP gains and the supposed Ram Air effect. Neither are happening here sorry.
If you can improve .2 at the track that's pretty much 20hp increase. Several owners have seen (along with Maryland Speed) a .2 improvement at the track (same day just switched intakes). This is also the non tune Intake.
But I would say the intakes good for 15hp or so.

The "ram air" effect was a bad choice of words. The Vararam does bring outside air directly into the mouth of the intake. You can stick your hand/arm right throught the front grill into the mounth of the intake. That has to be worth a few HP.

I have dynoed my car with an original Vararam. I also dynoed it with an LMR intake. Unfortunately I never dynoed it with the stock intake. But the Vararam made 5 rwhp more than the LMR intake. My car was tune for both intakes at the time.
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