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Shawno72 · 04-17-2016, 02:41 AM

Btw did you tell those guys they are gonna be a part of history lol

Shawno72 · 04-17-2016, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

Not trying to rain on anyone's party here, but dyno numbers are just dyno numbers. They dont equate to performance.

Dynos are just a tunning tool; they vary greatly from day to day, car to car, shop to shop, tuner to tuner, even with the correction factor.

And the first naysayer......it's all good, v8s are still cool....haha jk man. Yeah of course but don't count out what a properly tuned v6 can do. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Will can work some serious magic with these "little v6s". Couple that with Jason's, aka Jacfab, goodies and it's gonna get interesting.

Shawno72 · 04-17-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by derek1387

Thank you to Jason at JacFab and Will Overkill.

316RWHP and 247ft/lbs. no internal work.

https://vimeo.com/163118023

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I'm glad you posted this video because you can clearly him them row to 4th gear before they stomp on it. No 3rd gear here

ZYBORG · 04-17-2016, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawno72

And the first naysayer......it's all good, v8s are still cool....haha jk man. Yeah of course but don't count out what a properly tuned v6 can do. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Will can work some serious magic with these "little v6s". Couple that with Jason's, aka Jacfab, goodies and it's gonna get interesting.

Im certainly not saying thay v6s cant perform. Of course they can. If the car has quality parts, driver and tune. Even a 4 cyl can put a hurting on other cars. What I am saying is, that focusing on a dyno number, does not translate on how good that car may actually run.

I see v8 guys doing it all the time too. It would be cooler to see the car hurting some feelings, while actually going head to head vs other cars, than claiming dyno numbers.

Shawno72 · 04-17-2016, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

Im certainly not saying thay v6s cant perform. Of course they can. If the car has quality parts, driver and tune. Even a 4 cyl can put a hurting on other cars. What I am saying is, that focusing on a dyno number, does not translate on how good that car may actually run.

I see v8 guys doing it all the time too. It would be cooler to see the car hurting some feelings, while actually going head to head vs other cars, than claiming dyno numbers.

Well that certainly is where the real fun is at but most knuckleheads want graphical proof. Which is now black and white. A little track time will def back the numbers up tho.

But trust me when I say this. A NA v6 with rwhp rivaling an L99 is gonna def hurt some feelings. Especially all those "it's missing 2 cylinders" guys. Haha

ghosted · 04-17-2016, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawno72

Well that certainly is where the real fun is at but most knuckleheads want graphical proof. Which is now black and white. A little track time will def back the numbers up tho.

But trust me when I say this. A NA v6 with rwhp rivaling an L99 is gonna def hurt some feelings. Especially all those "it's missing 2 cylinders" guys. Haha

Hell yeah. That's about 20% of the reason I chose the underdog v6 to begin with. I love making the haters rethink their words.

Derek is going places. I'm doing the same on my end....except I'm letting Derek do all of the experimenting first on some things, and he on me for others.

mjf12080 · 04-17-2016, 07:45 AM

NICE WORK....is it just me or does it look as though they revved it out to like 7800 RPMS...does that have to do with the e85 tune Im guessing...maybe Derek can weigh in on that.

flyinglow57 · 04-17-2016, 07:56 AM

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NICE WORK....is it just me or does it look as though they revved it out to like 7800 RPMS...does that have to do with the e85 tune Im guessing...maybe Derek can weigh in on that.

According to the graph they rev to 8400 Do the v6s rev that high

derek1387 · 04-17-2016, 07:57 AM

No. We are certain the RPM graph is off but that doesn't affect the tq and hp constants

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mjf12080 · 04-17-2016, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by flyinglow57

According to the graph they rev to 8400 Do the v6s rev that high

Not mine lol Mine tops at about 7000, Most NA's Ive seen are in the same area I am. Im wondering if with the 85 Will lifts redline for the Diff. fuel? The only thing I can think of.

derek1387 · 04-17-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mjf12080

Not mine lol Mine tops at about 7000, Most NA's Ive seen are in the same area I am. Im wondering if with the 85 Will lifts redline for the Diff. fuel? The only thing I can think of.

I dont believe WIll has changed my redline by 1500RPM. We are pretty sure the graph is off on the RPM's. But, that doesnt change the tq/hp numbers

Skullcandy · 04-17-2016, 09:21 AM

i knew thats we'd break 300 with the mods from will. So excited! good stuff man!

1Coopgt · 04-17-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawno72

And the first naysayer......it's all good, v8s are still cool....haha jk man. Yeah of course but don't count out what a properly tuned v6 can do. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Will can work some serious magic with these "little v6s". Couple that with Jason's, aka Jacfab, goodies and it's gonna get interesting.

He's not being a naysayer . He's actually telling the truth . Dynos are a tuning tool . Everything he said about them is correct .

Congrates OP awesome number !

Shawno72 · 04-17-2016, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Coopgt

He's not being a naysayer . He's actually telling the truth . Dynos are a tuning tool . Everything he said about them is correct .

Congrates OP awesome number !

I know this. Hence the jk = just kidding. Guys get so serious when it comes to horsepower and dyno graphs

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04-17-2016, 07:57 AM	#23
derek1387 Drives: 2015 1LS Red V6 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: St Joseph, MO Posts: 1,849	No. We are certain the RPM graph is off but that doesn't affect the tq and hp constants Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Sponsors: Overkill Motorsport BCS Auto JacFab Machining APDEG Dream Gear Mobile Audio Thanks to Will @ Overkill Motorsports, Jason @ JacFab, Jim @ Ohio Speed, Brandon at Dream Gear, and the boys at Randy Curnow Chevrolet 5th Gen V6 Performance Facebook Group

04-17-2016, 09:21 AM	#26
Skullcandy Drives: 2013 camaro 2ls Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 519 View My Garage	i knew thats we'd break 300 with the mods from will. So excited! good stuff man!