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Jtmurillo · 10-06-2020, 05:36 PM

Hello- so I think I am going to make the step to supercharge my 2010 Camaro 2SS L99. I have reached out to all the ProCharger Dealers in my area that were recommended to me by ProCharger. So far the below are my two quotes.

Company 1: The STG 2 intercooler kit with a P-1SC-1. $8500 tax, installed and tuned. The tuning service includes both dyno and road tuning as well. The fuel system upgrade would include injectors and BAP using the stock fuel pump. I can save $200 by paying cash bringing the final total to $8,300 all in.

Company 2: They said I can take $500 off if I choose the basic finish (company #1 quoted me the basic finish) and another $200 if I pay cash bringing the final total to $10,428.84 cash.

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I am still waiting on two more shops to get back to me. What are your thoughts on these two quotes. Are they fair, do I need to ask more questions with either company? Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Thanks!

TheFlyingBananaSS · 10-06-2020, 06:29 PM

You will be limited to a peak power level with a BAP. Minimum I would do is a ZL1 pump with fpcm.

tartagliazl1 · 10-06-2020, 06:54 PM

Hot damn. That’s a lot of coin for a supercharger and install. A whole brand new Lsa engine is only $12k

IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 · 10-06-2020, 07:40 PM

Have you looked into the ECS kits?

TheFlyingBananaSS · 10-06-2020, 07:59 PM

You are definitely getting taken advantage of. $290 for a ZL1 pump?. You can get an ECS complete kit for about 6500k or so, injectors and Bap along with catch can all included. Best educate yourself a little or your pockets will wind up empty. It adds up fast but paying top dollar is not necessary. The ECS 1500 is good up to 850hp.

Jtmurillo · 10-06-2020, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtmurillo

Hello- so I think I am going to make the step to supercharge my 2010 Camaro 2SS L99. I have reached out to all the ProCharger Dealers in my area that were recommended to me by ProCharger. So far the below are my two quotes.

Company 1: The STG 2 intercooler kit with a P-1SC-1. $8500 tax, installed and tuned. The tuning service includes both dyno and road tuning as well. The fuel system upgrade would include injectors and BAP using the stock fuel pump. I can save $200 by paying cash bringing the final total to $8,300 all in.

Company 2: They said I can take $500 off if I choose the basic finish (company #1 quoted me the basic finish) and another $200 if I pay cash bringing the final total to $10,428.84 cash.

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I am still waiting on two more shops to get back to me. What are your thoughts on these two quotes. Are they fair, do I need to ask more questions with either company? Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Thanks!

My end goal is between 650-700 HP. I like ProCharger and I also plan on camming my car in the future so I don’t have to get straight to 650-700 with just the ProCharger. I like the reliability of it and I want to have an engine that lasts a long time.

RupertPupkin · 10-06-2020, 11:10 PM

I’m sure a lot of centri blowers are reliable. AA/ ECS/ ECS/ TrqStorm...

Skip the BAP. Go aux pump of put in a new pump. 7400$ for a P1. Might as well do an ECS tuner kit for 5800$, and it performs better.

Just to give you a price comparison... Here’s my build. Tax free btw.
Balancer- 405$
Tune/install for EVERYTHING- 1900$
FIC 127#- 800$
DSX pump- 950$
Gauges/pod- 400$
ECS 1500- 5800$

10255$

eLeSthree · 10-07-2020, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jtmurillo

My end goal is between 650-700 HP. I like ProCharger and I also plan on camming my car in the future so I don’t have to get straight to 650-700 with just the ProCharger. I like the reliability of it and I want to have an engine that lasts a long time.

I helped my friend install his stage 2 P1SC on a 2015 SS. Here are a few things to keep in mind.

1. If you have any modifications currently, (cam/exhaust/headers) Procharger support will tell you NOT to use their tune.

2. The fast injectors are not well liked by most tuners and too small for E85.

3. The surge valve is kinda junk, and has been replaced by a Big Red Race valve.

4.The instructions have you install a boost/vacuum switch right onto the brake booster vacuum line. This leaves exposed electrical connectors right next to the metal refrigeration lines. Be sure to cover them so it doesnt short out.

5. The boost a pump will only get you so far with the stock fuel pump. You will eventually need more pump. Cant use that setup for E85.

6. The intercooler piping and couplers are a pain in the ass and his intake temperatures are around 140. Thats kinda high for a "stage 2" intercooler. Probably because the air filter sucks hot air off the header.

7. He broke the tensioner bolt during a pulley swap. Not sure who's fault that is, but the design isnt the greatest.

Since he was cammed with headers, he ended up having to sell off his Fast injectors, Diablo Sport handheld tuner, install a ZL1 fuel pump, and have his car tuned locally and the FPCM tuned. And now he's on the limit of his fuel system. It cost him $1400 for ID1300x, $500 for a tune, and $200 for a new fuel pump. Plus $400 or so for the Surge valve.

In my personal opinion, I would try to buy the kit as a Tuner Kit, if they sell it this way. That should save you $1000 or so, which you could use towards a DSX Aux pump, or a good set of injectors, or a tune, or a clutch, or a set of drag radials, or any of the many things you will want soon.

hunter1660 · 10-07-2020, 06:13 AM

A lot of great advice....and it’s free

RupertPupkin · 10-07-2020, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hunter1660

A lot of great advice....and it’s free

Free... who said it was free!!

Warship2k15 · 10-07-2020, 08:37 AM

These guys are giving you good info.I would personally go with the ecs kit but that’s personal preference.No matter which one you go with get it as a tuner kit.
You would eventually end up changing the injectors and pump anyway.
If keeping 700 or below then zl1 Pump will do the job.
If maybe going higher in the future then an aux pump or dedicated aftermarket fuel pump/pumps should be installed now instead of later.

Axe55 · 10-07-2020, 08:42 AM

Only recommendation I'll give you is not to skimp on the fuel system! Decide where you want to end up, and buy all the fuel components to get there the first time so you don't end up having to do it twice. If your end state is going to be E85 or 700+rwhp, even if that's in 2 years, get the injectors and pump(s) that will support it now. It'll save you money and time in the long run so you don't have to pay for the install twice.

Comparing to some of the other vendor sponsors on here, that price doesn't look like it's out of whack for a stage 2 procharger kit. So if you want procharger, it seems ok.

Greenhornet2 · 10-07-2020, 01:55 PM

If you will truly be happy with 700whp a zl1 pump and jms voltage booster will work to about 750whp on 93 octane over 800whp on 100octane. No E85. ID 1050 injectors would also be fine, again without e85. If you're gonna want more I'd skip an aux pump and just do a dual or triple pump setup.

gsxrturbo · 10-07-2020, 06:42 PM

AXE is right on the money!fuel system is a must if you want big power!!!!

10-06-2020, 06:29 PM	#2
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	You will be limited to a peak power level with a BAP. Minimum I would do is a ZL1 pump with fpcm. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

10-06-2020, 06:54 PM	#3
tartagliazl1 Drives: 2013 zl1 vert Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Rochester, New york Posts: 956	Hot damn. That’s a lot of coin for a supercharger and install. A whole brand new Lsa engine is only $12k __________________ 22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 850/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.

10-06-2020, 07:40 PM	#4
IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Wichita,KS Posts: 603	Have you looked into the ECS kits? __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS, 6.0 iron block forged bottom end, Dart heads, BTR intake, Huron twin turbo kit, Summit stage 3 twin turbo cam, Circle D stage 4 6L90, 3800 FTI converter. BMR suspension, Viking coil overs, Fore triple pump fuel system.

10-06-2020, 07:59 PM	#5
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	You are definitely getting taken advantage of. $290 for a ZL1 pump?. You can get an ECS complete kit for about 6500k or so, injectors and Bap along with catch can all included. Best educate yourself a little or your pockets will wind up empty. It adds up fast but paying top dollar is not necessary. The ECS 1500 is good up to 850hp. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

10-06-2020, 11:10 PM	#7
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,603	I’m sure a lot of centri blowers are reliable. AA/ ECS/ ECS/ TrqStorm... Skip the BAP. Go aux pump of put in a new pump. 7400$ for a P1. Might as well do an ECS tuner kit for 5800$, and it performs better. Just to give you a price comparison... Here’s my build. Tax free btw. Balancer- 405$ Tune/install for EVERYTHING- 1900$ FIC 127#- 800$ DSX pump- 950$ Gauges/pod- 400$ ECS 1500- 5800$ 10255$ __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq Last edited by RupertPupkin; 10-06-2020 at 11:21 PM.

10-06-2020, 05:36 PM	#1
Jtmurillo Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 91	P-1SC-1 Quote Hello- so I think I am going to make the step to supercharge my 2010 Camaro 2SS L99. I have reached out to all the ProCharger Dealers in my area that were recommended to me by ProCharger. So far the below are my two quotes. Company 1: The STG 2 intercooler kit with a P-1SC-1. $8500 tax, installed and tuned. The tuning service includes both dyno and road tuning as well. The fuel system upgrade would include injectors and BAP using the stock fuel pump. I can save $200 by paying cash bringing the final total to $8,300 all in. Company 2: They said I can take $500 off if I choose the basic finish (company #1 quoted me the basic finish) and another $200 if I pay cash bringing the final total to $10,428.84 cash. I am still waiting on two more shops to get back to me. What are your thoughts on these two quotes. Are they fair, do I need to ask more questions with either company? Any help or insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

10-07-2020, 06:13 AM	#9
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	A lot of great advice....and it’s free __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

10-07-2020, 08:37 AM	#11
Warship2k15 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Kissimmee Posts: 158	These guys are giving you good info.I would personally go with the ecs kit but that’s personal preference.No matter which one you go with get it as a tuner kit. You would eventually end up changing the injectors and pump anyway. If keeping 700 or below then zl1 Pump will do the job. If maybe going higher in the future then an aux pump or dedicated aftermarket fuel pump/pumps should be installed now instead of later.

10-07-2020, 08:42 AM	#12
Axe55 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 159	Only recommendation I'll give you is not to skimp on the fuel system! Decide where you want to end up, and buy all the fuel components to get there the first time so you don't end up having to do it twice. If your end state is going to be E85 or 700+rwhp, even if that's in 2 years, get the injectors and pump(s) that will support it now. It'll save you money and time in the long run so you don't have to pay for the install twice. Comparing to some of the other vendor sponsors on here, that price doesn't look like it's out of whack for a stage 2 procharger kit. So if you want procharger, it seems ok. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS LS3, JRE Scoop, CAI intake, Whipple Supercharger, Fast 85lb injectors, ZL1 pump, McLeod RXT clutch, MGW shifter, Stainless Power 1 7/8 headers w/HFC, Ridetech coilovers, BMR sway bars, trailing arms, toe rods, cradle bushing inserts, 2020 Speed Tuned.

10-07-2020, 01:55 PM	#13
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	If you will truly be happy with 700whp a zl1 pump and jms voltage booster will work to about 750whp on 93 octane over 800whp on 100octane. No E85. ID 1050 injectors would also be fine, again without e85. If you're gonna want more I'd skip an aux pump and just do a dual or triple pump setup. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

10-07-2020, 06:42 PM	#14
gsxrturbo Drives: 2010 ss Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: windom mn Posts: 337	AXE is right on the money!fuel system is a must if you want big power!!!!