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ADM PERFORMANCE · 07-21-2009, 06:03 PM

Decided to post the best graph yet from our shop...2010 Camaro Automatic with just a tune and Magnaflow axle back exhaust.

Very Impressive gains considering the before dyno:

I pre dynoed this car with 2 pulls,both with same results

The Magnaflow mufflers were addded after dyno 4 and showed no gains.

Andy

Crowley · 07-21-2009, 07:07 PM

very nice ..

Crowley

*CamaroSpike23* · 07-21-2009, 07:24 PM

very nice indeed

Number_9 · 07-22-2009, 09:01 PM

I must admit, it's a kicker. Traction control off, the back end break's loose like I own shares in Pirelli. Traction control on, she'll still pop. Wow!

I cannot wait for TMS tomorrow night.

Andy - X pipe or no? Me thinks yes.

Crowley · 07-23-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Number_9

I must admit, it's a kicker. Traction control off, the back end break's loose like I own shares in Pirelli. Traction control on, she'll still pop. Wow!

I cannot wait for TMS tomorrow night.

Andy - X pipe or no? Me thinks yes.

Me thinks yes as well

Crowley

SGOS252382 · 07-23-2009, 08:03 AM

That's unreal.

25 hp and 51 ft lbs of torque from a tune. I can't wait to get my L99 tuned.

Rodrunner · 07-23-2009, 08:41 AM

Yes, impressive improvement, but not much better than we expected from the factory(hp anyway)...and now no powertrain warranty, correct?

Crowley · 07-23-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodrunner

Yes, impressive improvement, but not much better than we expected from the factory(hp anyway)...and now no powertrain warranty, correct?

I think people expectations of the automatic and manual stock were high to begin with. It seems the drivetrain in the camaro isn't as efficient as past setups.

Crowley

caverman · 07-23-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodrunner

Yes, impressive improvement, but not much better than we expected from the factory(hp anyway)...and now no powertrain warranty, correct?

Not sure what you mean by "not much better than we expected from the factory"? The tuned gained basically 10% rwhp. If you add on 10% to the factory claimed hp then the car should have about 440 hp. To me that's 40 hp more than what is expected from the factory. Not including Andy was probably able to get rid of the torque mgmt which sould make it if feel much better.

Technically you would void the warranty but that's not guaranteed. It will all depend on Service Mgr. Maybe talk with them prior to doing a tune and see if they recommend a local speed shop that they work with. If you just have some 16 yr old kid hooking up their laptop to your car and playing around I can see where they would void you but if you are taking your car to a reputable place they may not void you.

Just my 2 cents...

Dan · 07-23-2009, 08:59 AM

How could it possibly have been 300 hp and less than 300 torque stock?

Number_9 · 07-23-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

That's unreal.

25 hp and 51 ft lbs of torque from a tune. I can't wait to get my L99 tuned.

Plus the 3hp from the exhaust... haha. But, it does bring it closer to 30hp gained.

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Originally Posted by Rodrunner

Yes, impressive improvement, but not much better than we expected from the factory(hp anyway)...and now no powertrain warranty, correct?

I would say it depends on how/what things happen to the powertrain attributing to the need for a warranty claim... and how loose/firm the dealership is where you take the car. It's also easy enough to put a stock ECM unit back into the car (with a GM tune). But, it's also a reason to use a knowledgeable high-end mechanic w/a great reputation.

Rodrunner · 07-23-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

I think people expectations of the automatic and manual stock were high to begin with. It seems the drivetrain in the camaro isn't less efficient than past setups.
Crowley

Yeah, that might be nearly all of the "problem".

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Originally Posted by caverman

Not sure what you mean by "not much better than we expected from the factory"? The tuned gained basically 10% rwhp. If you add on 10% to the factory claimed hp then the car should have about 440 hp. To me that's 40 hp more than what is expected from the factory. Not including Andy was probably able to get rid of the torque mgmt which sould make it if feel much better.
Technically you would void the warranty but that's not guaranteed. It will all depend on Service Mgr. Maybe talk with them prior to doing a tune and see if they recommend a local speed shop that they work with. If you just have some 16 yr old kid hooking up their laptop to your car and playing around I can see where they would void you but if you are taking your car to a reputable place they may not void you.
Just my 2 cents...

I think a lot of us were expecting to loose at most 15-20% through the drivetrain, leaving 340 to 320rwhp, so the tuned 331rwhp is in that range. Like Crowley said though, we were evidently ignorantly optomistic.

Of course the torque is what we should be worried about, and the 351rwft-lbs is most impressive.
Interesting thoughts on the warranty, caveman, might be worthwhile to at least talk to the Svc. Mngr. before doing it.

P.S. - Thanks for the new sig!

SGOS252382 · 07-23-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

How could it possibly have been 300 hp and less than 300 torque stock?

Its sad but true. Many of the stock L99 A6's are only dynoing around
305 rwhp.
The range seems to be anywhere from 305 rwhp to 330 rwhp (on average). The majority of the L99's will fall somewhere within that range.

gpr · 07-23-2009, 11:20 AM

That is kind of sad, as i remember back in the LS1 days. They were rated at 325hp and many would put down 320hp to the rear wheels stock!

07-21-2009, 06:03 PM	#1
ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: Anything I want Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DfW - Texas Posts: 5,405	ADM Tuned and Magnaflowed Decided to post the best graph yet from our shop...2010 Camaro Automatic with just a tune and Magnaflow axle back exhaust. Very Impressive gains considering the before dyno: I pre dynoed this car with 2 pulls,both with same results The Magnaflow mufflers were addded after dyno 4 and showed no gains. Andy

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07-22-2009, 09:01 PM	#4
Number_9 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trophy Club, TX Posts: 1,464 View My Garage	I must admit, it's a kicker. Traction control off, the back end break's loose like I own shares in Pirelli. Traction control on, she'll still pop. Wow! I cannot wait for TMS tomorrow night. Andy - X pipe or no? Me thinks yes. __________________

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Rodrunner Senior Member Drives: 2010 SS/RS, '06 350Z Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 2,333	Yes, impressive improvement, but not much better than we expected from the factory(hp anyway)...and now no powertrain warranty, correct? __________________ 2SS/RS - Black/Black - CGM Rally Stripes - Auto - VIN 10171

07-23-2009, 08:03 AM	#6
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	That's unreal. 25 hp and 51 ft lbs of torque from a tune. I can't wait to get my L99 tuned.

07-23-2009, 08:59 AM	#10
Dan Drives: 2004 GTO Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 448	How could it possibly have been 300 hp and less than 300 torque stock?

07-23-2009, 11:20 AM	#14
gpr Drives: never fast enough Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CO Posts: 59	That is kind of sad, as i remember back in the LS1 days. They were rated at 325hp and many would put down 320hp to the rear wheels stock!