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Old 03-13-2023, 07:34 AM   #603
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Things will eventually level out, EVs will find their spot. I think the market is just seeing how much people are willing to go for.

I can't imagine electric pickup trucks in their current form are here to stay. (unless you're just buying it to park it up front at home depot when actual contractors are trying to load materials).

There is a place for EVs, and some people will dig in to prove that place is larger or smaller than it should be, but they are the outliers. They don't wholly suck, but they aren't a silver bullet either. To add onto that, they are a new tech and that comes with its own problems / benefits.

No matter how you slice it, they aren't going anywhere, especially with people willing to pay 100K+ for a friggen "Silverado" with a battery pack. That is ultimately what drives the market, and until that changes, get ready for more of it.

Personally, I won't buy an EV because they don't fit into my life style, it's too cold for too long here, and the one dealer in my area is an asshole so I don't use it and independent shops don't really service the finer parts of those cars. So, what are my options? There are about 2 dozen different flavors of egg shaped soul-less cars out there, and then your go to sedans, / light trucks. We have a subaru sedan for every day, my pickup, and the camaro. Car manufacturers have started replacing fun to drive cars with cars loaded to the gills with tech that I absolutely hate. Don't need or want a big screen in any car, ever.

It's not that I'm dreaming of a wall of GM standard issue creaky plastic buttons like I just got into an express van, but man, there is a middle ground, isn't there?

I'm thankful for the Camaro I have, it's the only thing I own that I truly enjoy driving. Everything else is more utility than joy.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:24 PM   #604
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This is interesting.

"Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car"

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/03/20/...nk-entire-car/
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Old 03-22-2023, 02:03 PM   #605
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Things will eventually level out, EVs will find their spot. I think the market is just seeing how much people are willing to go for.

I can't imagine electric pickup trucks in their current form are here to stay. (unless you're just buying it to park it up front at home depot when actual contractors are trying to load materials).

There is a place for EVs, and some people will dig in to prove that place is larger or smaller than it should be, but they are the outliers. They don't wholly suck, but they aren't a silver bullet either. To add onto that, they are a new tech and that comes with its own problems / benefits.

No matter how you slice it, they aren't going anywhere, especially with people willing to pay 100K+ for a friggen "Silverado" with a battery pack. That is ultimately what drives the market, and until that changes, get ready for more of it.

Personally, I won't buy an EV because they don't fit into my life style, it's too cold for too long here, and the one dealer in my area is an asshole so I don't use it and independent shops don't really service the finer parts of those cars. So, what are my options? There are about 2 dozen different flavors of egg shaped soul-less cars out there, and then your go to sedans, / light trucks. We have a subaru sedan for every day, my pickup, and the camaro. Car manufacturers have started replacing fun to drive cars with cars loaded to the gills with tech that I absolutely hate. Don't need or want a big screen in any car, ever.

It's not that I'm dreaming of a wall of GM standard issue creaky plastic buttons like I just got into an express van, but man, there is a middle ground, isn't there?

I'm thankful for the Camaro I have, it's the only thing I own that I truly enjoy driving. Everything else is more utility than joy.
You and I have the same thought process. On the one hand it saddens me that the automotive culture will essentially go away, becoming a utensilized market where it doesn't matter which brand of car you will buy. All or most cars will look alike, perform in the same manner, and even to the extent that they will have the same parts. Gone will be the sense of style, mystery, adventure, and all of the good things that cars once represented.

On the other hand, I was able to experience the best of what cars are made of in terms of technology and performance. The current cars that I own, as well as other automobiles made in the past will be the cars that I will look for and admire. The strangest phenomenon may actually happen, that my next major car purchase may in fact be an older restored classic car. If ever there is a need to buy a car for daily driving, unfortunately it will be any car that has a good reputation and reasonable in price. The market will end up being ripe for Honda, Toyota, maybe Tesla, Hyundai and other car manufacturers.
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Old 03-22-2023, 02:08 PM   #606
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You and I have the same thought process. On the one hand it saddens me that the automotive culture will essentially go away, becoming a utensilized market where it doesn't matter which brand of car you will buy. All or most cars will look alike, perform in the same manner, and even to the extent that they will have the same parts. Gone will be the sense of style, mystery, adventure, and all of the good things that cars once represented.

On the other hand, I was able to experience the best of what cars are made of in terms of technology and performance. The current cars that I own, as well as other automobiles made in the past will be the cars that I will look for and admire. The strangest phenomenon may actually happen, that my next major car purchase may in fact be an older restored classic car. If ever there is a need to buy a car for daily driving, unfortunately it will be any car that has a good reputation and reasonable in price. The market will end up being ripe for Honda, Toyota, maybe Tesla, Hyundai and other car manufacturers.



Funny you say this, very brand loyal friends of mine are already looking outside the brand for EV.
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Old 03-22-2023, 02:10 PM   #607
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Funny you say this, very brand loyal friends of mine are already looking outside the brand for EV.
Its a twisted irony.
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