Chevy confirms that CGM and IBM are gone for 2012! - Page 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Havok · 07-07-2011, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Ram2500Hemi

If the bid for a 2LT starts at $100K, what does my 2SS/RS start at?

This sucks for people that really wanted a color that is no longer. It also makes me really glad I got mine when I did.

$100,001.

Lazerbrainz2k3 · 07-07-2011, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IBM/2SS/RS/LS3

for you..

for us that have those colors

Until/unless your car is in an accident, is totaled, and now you can get a new one but it won't be in your preferred color... unless you want to spend an extra grand or more getting the whole thing repainted at a paint shop. Me, I'd trade them still having ABM available and fully half the cars on the street being ABM, than risking that unhappy possibility happening.

I got my favorite, ABM, but my runner-ups (and the only colors I really considered besides it) are gone with the demise of IBM and CGM. It does stink. Can it really be that inefficient for them to keep colors other than the most popular ones: black, reds, and yellow?

04Ram2500Hemi · 07-07-2011, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazerbrainz2k3

Until/unless your car is in an accident, is totaled, and now you can get a new one but it won't be in your preferred color... unless you want to spend an extra grand or more getting the whole thing repainted at a paint shop. Me, I'd trade them still having ABM available and fully half the cars on the street being ABM, than risking that unhappy possibility happening.

I got my favorite, ABM, but my runner-ups (and the only colors I really considered besides it) are gone with the demise of IBM and CGM. It does stink. Can it really be that inefficient for them to keep colors other than the most popular ones: black, reds, and yellow?

The whole totalled/accident thing is the reason I carry full insurance on every vehicle I own. Let the insurance company pay for the extra cost of paint on my car. I'm not worried at all.

aqualite75 · 07-07-2011, 04:14 PM

I don't think GM/Dodge/Ford removed paint colors because they wanted to. I think this has everything to do with the earthquake in Japan earlier in the year. All of the metallic colors are the ones that seem to be getting pulled. I was reading on the Challengertalk forum that brilliant black crystal pearl is one of the earthquake casualties because of the pigment required to give the metallic look. This is probably a short lived exclusion and we may see some of these colors return.

First link: shortage due to plant closure
http://www.inautonews.com/japan-impa...-auto-industry

Second link: production resuming
http://www.inautonews.com/japan-xira...le-from-june-1

PYROLYSIS · 07-07-2011, 04:15 PM

Normally I would hope that this is one of those circumstances where something bad has happened to the Camaro lineup, but if we just have faith, things will improve. I have been saving for a fifth gen since the release of the concept and have been a long time Camaro owner. I sold my hand me down Saturn SL1 to buy a black 91 RS v-6 when I was a kid. I am now on my fourth Camaro and have intentions of purchasing a late 2012 model or later. Its hard to keep faith when you're a member of this site and see things like the disappearence of ABM, the Synergy "special edition", and the practice of charging extra for colors-especially colors that were originally offered without an upcharge. I'm not upset about IBM and CGM going away because that was the color I was wating for (although they were in my top 4), I'm upset because as hard as they've worked on this car they should have had replacement colors in place before the removal of IBM, RJT, CGM and whatever else might get the axe. I personally am still waiting for a medium to dark metallic blue, but I'm worried that if it is offered, it will dissappear before I can purchase. While I don't expect GM to make exactly the color I want, I would be ecstatic and pushed closer to purchase if they offered a nice medium blue. I also don't think it's too much to ask for them to offer more than 6 colors. If more colors are to be announced that's good news but if that news was offered earlier it would cut down on some of the sales lag from the model year switchover. Hopefully this rant is for nothing and a color similar to this will appear in due time, for a full model year, and not cost extra on top of the 2012 recently raised prices.

shank0668 · 07-07-2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqualite75

I don't think GM/Dodge/Ford removed paint colors because they wanted to. I think this has everything to do with the earthquake in Japan earlier in the year. All of the metallic colors are the ones that seem to be getting pulled. I was reading on the Challengertalk forum that brilliant black crystal pearl is one of the earthquake casualties because of the pigment required to give the metallic look. This is probably a short lived exclusion and we may see some of these colors return.

First link: shortage due to plant closure
http://www.inautonews.com/japan-impa...-auto-industry

Second link: production resuming
http://www.inautonews.com/japan-xira...le-from-june-1

Yeah, we wouldn't want to manufacture anything in America you know.

suplex · 07-07-2011, 04:19 PM

I love having mine in Yellow. If I wasn't able to get it I would have gone Orange first, and then White. I still don't agree with taking away colors people liked...unless...other than the people in here who like them, they just weren't selling that well over all.

I'd even like to see some other choices that were as wild as the Synergy Green. Maybe something like a Purple (or Grape) color, a bright blue, a dark green (like the Polo Green my 1994 Camaro was), and even a Pastel Pink color (special order only, for the ladies out there...why not?).

Colors for a car like that shouldn't be boring at all.

dutchnrican · 07-07-2011, 04:19 PM

wow that sucks. I was looking to trade my 2011 CGM LT for the same color only an ss, but the dealer couldn't find any and told me about the paint constraint, so I just went ahead and ordered a black 2012. Kinda felt bad about ordering a black if CGM was gonna come back... guess I don't feel too bad now. Good news is that I now have a color that isn't made anymore. Hopefully I can get them to give me a good price on it when I trade it in. Or if someone here would be interested in it let me know.

Shurenuff · 07-07-2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Normally I would hope that this is one of those circumstances where something bad has happened to the Camaro lineup, but if we just have faith, things will improve. I have been saving for a fifth gen since the release of the concept and have been a long time Camaro owner. I sold my hand me down Saturn SL1 to buy a black 91 RS v-6 when I was a kid. I am now on my fourth Camaro and have intentions of purchasing a late 2012 model or later. Its hard to keep faith when you're a member of this site and see things like the disappearence of ABM, the Synergy "special edition", and the practice of charging extra for colors-especially colors that were originally offered without an upcharge. I'm not upset about IBM and CGM going away because that was the color I was wating for (although they were in my top 4), I'm upset because as hard as they've worked on this car they should have had replacement colors in place before the removal of IBM, RJT, CGM and whatever else might get the axe. I personally am still waiting for a medium to dark metallic blue, but I'm worried that if it is offered, it will dissappear before I can purchase. While I don't expect GM to make exactly the color I want, I would be ecstatic and pushed closer to purchase if they offered a nice medium blue. I also don't think it's too much to ask for them to offer more than 6 colors. If more colors are to be announced that's good news but if that news was offered earlier it would cut down on some of the sales lag from the model year switchover. Hopefully this rant is for nothing and a color similar to this will appear in due time, for a full model year, and not cost extra on top of the 2012 recently raised prices.

If they offered that blue as a replacement color, I would turn this frown upside down in a split second.

Just what I'd want, a medium to dark medium true, deep blue. Not a fan of ABM outside of being in direct sunlight. It's a bit too light for my taste and has a greenish tint in certain lighting.

BoostedX2 · 07-07-2011, 04:19 PM

So why? Why can Ford and Dodge have such great colors? wHY CAN GT500 HAVE A HAND BUILT FORGED MOTOR? LOOKS ONLY GET YOU SO FAR! One more reason to defect. I simply don't understand why they put so much effort into fixing little things like the passenger seat but only offer basic colors. MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. GT 500 OR SRT-8 HERE I COME!!!

daveagogo1 · 07-07-2011, 04:21 PM

I hope they do come up with more colors. Not that i want them. It just gives everyone else options to NOT buy the VR that i am quite partial too.

shank0668 · 07-07-2011, 04:24 PM

Rjt always got my attention when it went down the road. I have only seen one ABM, it looked sweet. IBM-eh.
CGM.......NO!

macwest · 07-07-2011, 05:19 PM

I suspect this is all about japan. CGM is one of GM's best selling colors and no reason to remove it unless they an not get enough for their plants. Maybe it will be back in 2013.

Chemical · 07-07-2011, 05:43 PM

Damnt It! I thought for sure CGM would be ready for the ZL1... there goes my first choice...

Now I'm so confused... Carbon flash to me looks like black while it's dirty...

I don't know what I'll choose... I'm expecting more colors soon.

Looks like a good time for possible optional colors we can vote on, GM let's hear it.

07-07-2011, 04:15 PM	#33
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	Normally I would hope that this is one of those circumstances where something bad has happened to the Camaro lineup, but if we just have faith, things will improve. I have been saving for a fifth gen since the release of the concept and have been a long time Camaro owner. I sold my hand me down Saturn SL1 to buy a black 91 RS v-6 when I was a kid. I am now on my fourth Camaro and have intentions of purchasing a late 2012 model or later. Its hard to keep faith when you're a member of this site and see things like the disappearence of ABM, the Synergy "special edition", and the practice of charging extra for colors-especially colors that were originally offered without an upcharge. I'm not upset about IBM and CGM going away because that was the color I was wating for (although they were in my top 4), I'm upset because as hard as they've worked on this car they should have had replacement colors in place before the removal of IBM, RJT, CGM and whatever else might get the axe. I personally am still waiting for a medium to dark metallic blue, but I'm worried that if it is offered, it will dissappear before I can purchase. While I don't expect GM to make exactly the color I want, I would be ecstatic and pushed closer to purchase if they offered a nice medium blue. I also don't think it's too much to ask for them to offer more than 6 colors. If more colors are to be announced that's good news but if that news was offered earlier it would cut down on some of the sales lag from the model year switchover. Hopefully this rant is for nothing and a color similar to this will appear in due time, for a full model year, and not cost extra on top of the 2012 recently raised prices. Attached Images __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

07-07-2011, 04:19 PM	#35
suplex Drives: 2011 Coupe, 1LT, A6, No RS Package. Join Date: May 2011 Location: Freehold, NJ. 07728 Posts: 1,042	I love having mine in Yellow. If I wasn't able to get it I would have gone Orange first, and then White. I still don't agree with taking away colors people liked...unless...other than the people in here who like them, they just weren't selling that well over all. I'd even like to see some other choices that were as wild as the Synergy Green. Maybe something like a Purple (or Grape) color, a bright blue, a dark green (like the Polo Green my 1994 Camaro was), and even a Pastel Pink color (special order only, for the ladies out there...why not?). Colors for a car like that shouldn't be boring at all. __________________ Never Underestimate The Power of Forums

07-07-2011, 05:19 PM	#41
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	I suspect this is all about japan. CGM is one of GM's best selling colors and no reason to remove it unless they an not get enough for their plants. Maybe it will be back in 2013. __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Are CGM & IBM coming back or not?!?!?!?!?!?	NoSyT	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	59	09-27-2011 11:23 AM
CGM with IBM	kcamarom	Camaro Photoshops / Renderings Forum	0	01-24-2010 10:14 AM
IBM with CGM stripes?	kalel	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	25	06-23-2009 05:51 PM
Anyone Have Pics Of A IBM Camaro With CGM Stripes?	CodenamePanther	Camaro Photos \| Spyshots \| Video \| Media Gallery	0	05-29-2009 06:38 PM
I give up! IBM CGM photo.	kalel	Camaro Photoshops / Renderings Forum	3	02-05-2009 06:08 PM

07-07-2011, 04:14 PM	#32
aqualite75 Drives: 2010 Transformers Edition 2SS RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 26	I don't think GM/Dodge/Ford removed paint colors because they wanted to. I think this has everything to do with the earthquake in Japan earlier in the year. All of the metallic colors are the ones that seem to be getting pulled. I was reading on the Challengertalk forum that brilliant black crystal pearl is one of the earthquake casualties because of the pigment required to give the metallic look. This is probably a short lived exclusion and we may see some of these colors return. First link: shortage due to plant closure http://www.inautonews.com/japan-impa...-auto-industry Second link: production resuming http://www.inautonews.com/japan-xira...le-from-june-1

07-07-2011, 04:19 PM	#36
dutchnrican brevard Drives: 2012 Black 2SS/RS M6. Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ny or fl Posts: 776	wow that sucks. I was looking to trade my 2011 CGM LT for the same color only an ss, but the dealer couldn't find any and told me about the paint constraint, so I just went ahead and ordered a black 2012. Kinda felt bad about ordering a black if CGM was gonna come back... guess I don't feel too bad now. Good news is that I now have a color that isn't made anymore. Hopefully I can get them to give me a good price on it when I trade it in. Or if someone here would be interested in it let me know.

07-07-2011, 04:19 PM	#38
BoostedX2 Drives: VR ZL1 #259/Nissan 370Z NISMO Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,071	So why? Why can Ford and Dodge have such great colors? wHY CAN GT500 HAVE A HAND BUILT FORGED MOTOR? LOOKS ONLY GET YOU SO FAR! One more reason to defect. I simply don't understand why they put so much effort into fixing little things like the passenger seat but only offer basic colors. MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. GT 500 OR SRT-8 HERE I COME!!!

07-07-2011, 04:24 PM	#40
shank0668 Drives: '14 LML/'06 LJ/'76 Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,438 View My Garage	Rjt always got my attention when it went down the road. I have only seen one ABM, it looked sweet. IBM-eh. CGM.......NO!

07-07-2011, 05:43 PM	#42
Chemical Drives: 2SS RS Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 710	Damnt It! I thought for sure CGM would be ready for the ZL1... there goes my first choice... Now I'm so confused... Carbon flash to me looks like black while it's dirty... I don't know what I'll choose... I'm expecting more colors soon. Looks like a good time for possible optional colors we can vote on, GM let's hear it.