V-6 Camaro VS RX-8

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by levi1922

the camaro also has an advantage over the rx8 being 5k cheaper for a base one, and then the r3 Rx8 costing more than the 1SS
yes i know you cant "feel" this when you drive, but, just thought id throw that out there since price is an issue in just about every comparison

Camaro starts at 22-23k, the RX-8 starts at 26k. And unlike the Camaro which will be selling AT or ABOVE MSRP, the fact that the Rx-8 has been out makes it more likely you'd be able to negotiate down. For instance, 3 weeks ago, my friend got quoted 28k on a 33k Rx-8.


Both are fairly stripped.. neither are 'comfortably equiped'... when they are that low


And Dont use the R3 for comparison, it actually has LESS bells and whistles than the loaded touring model, Its adv. is in the suspension/brakes/seats upgrades. Consider it a track model.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

unlike the Camaro which will be selling AT or ABOVE MSRP

How long do you expect that to last? I expect to see it commonly selling under MSRP by this time next year.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Camaro starts at 22-23k, the RX-8 starts at 26k. And unlike the Camaro which will be selling AT or ABOVE MSRP, the fact that the Rx-8 has been out makes it more likely you'd be able to negotiate down. For instance, 3 weeks ago, my friend got quoted 28k on a 33k Rx-8.

Both are fairly stripped.. neither are 'comfortably equiped'... when they are that low

And Dont use the R3 for comparison, it actually has LESS bells and whistles than the loaded touring model, Its adv. is in the suspension/brakes/seats upgrades. Consider it a track model.

And this brings another advantage/disadvantage (depending on how you look at it), the RX8 resale value is certainly poor.... meaning you can get a used one really cheap.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by snizzle

And this brings another advantage/disadvantage (depending on how you look at it), the RX8 resale value is certainly poor.... meaning you can get a used one really cheap.

Originally Posted by theholycow

How long do you expect that to last? I expect to see it commonly selling under MSRP by this time next year.

Doesnt matter for this comparison.



If it did the Rx-8 would win easy, after the Rx-9 comes out in the next year the Rx-8 will sell about the same a poopy flavored loli pop, thus droping the prices.

[snizzle]

A few more:

V6 Camaro > RX8
Same HP regardless of tranny choice
(RX8 6sp AT 212 vs 6sp MT 232 HP)

RX8 > V6 Camaro
Usable back seats
4 doors
Lower insurance cost

[num1panthersfan]

I also am a RX-8 owner and to be honest its a ok car. To me it's kinda slow tho, and the best part about driving it is when you go thru twisty, turny roads. Just not a rotary fan and dnt kno y I ever even got one. I mean they look way faster then they really are. They also require too much maintenance and they really do have many problems. I cant wait till i'm blessed to get my new CAMARO.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Doesnt matter for this comparison.



If it did the Rx-8 would win easy, after the Rx-9 comes out in the next year the Rx-8 will sell about the same a poopy flavored loli pop, thus droping the prices.

Any info yet on when the Rx 9 will be revealed?

[l008com]

I'm on my second RX-8. I've never had a flood. Not even when I have accidentally stalled it in the driveway in the winter, which was the primary cause of most floods, stalling while backing out of the garage. I find the reverse gear to be much to high a ratio in this car. Its a higher ratio than 1st gear. But regarding the seats and door, I love em and i'll miss em if my next car isn't an RX-8. I drive my rx-8 every day, and its so nice to be able to open the back door and just toss my stuff in there. Prior to my first RX-8, i drove a 2 door blazer and it was always a bitch cramming my work bags in there. With the RX-8, it's a piece of cake. And you can fit actual humans in the back seats. Along with some pretty large cargo, since the trunk is a joke. As far as looks, obviously the camaro has the "new" thing going that the RX-8 doesn't any more, but I find the RX-8 to be a much better looking car. I doesn't have low end torque but ones you learn how to drive the car, it's plenty fast, you just can't dump it into gears when the RPMs are low and expect it to muscle through. You need to adjust that shifting to higher RPMs and the car screams. I love the handling. The visibility isn't great but its much better than the camaro. Price & MPG are the main reasons I was considering switching to the camaro. I've also really had no maintenance issues. I've never had one for more than 2.25 years, but up until that point, each of my cars had only minor issues. New gas cap, squeaky clutch pedal etc. I swear my current RX-8 has a sticky rear end, but it only happens after 20+ miles on the highway, so the dealer can never experience the problem. But it's a lease so **** it :-)

In the end, I'd say it's a hell of a car to drive, but like I said, if you try to drive it like it has low end torque, and muscle it through the gears to accelerate, it will definitely feel slow.

Next RX-8 will me 1.6L, dubbed the 16x. Rotary is actually ideal for hydrogen because of the low compression. Hydrogen spontaneously combusts at high compression. Last I heard, the 16X will be able to run on both, but of course get much less power and fuel economy on the H. But at the same time, a solar panel & water = free hydrogen soooo :-)

[bluman]

Nice looking car but in serious need for an HP/engine upgrade, ditch the rotary engine, test drove both auto and manual, auto is painfully slow, less then 200hp and manual 215....

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by bluman

Nice looking car but in serious need for an HP/engine upgrade, ditch the rotary engine, test drove both auto and manual, auto is painfully slow, less then 200hp and manual 215....

Wrong. AT 212, MT 232

The AT was 197 up until 2005/2006 I believe when they switched from the 4 port to 6 port used in the MT. Still had to restrict the HP due to the torque converter though.

Oh, and you can't ditch the rotary in a RX car.... blasphemy.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

Any info yet on when the Rx 9 will be revealed?

They have kept it quiet, but I can tell you that the Mazda dealers know its coming so they are trying to ditch all their RX-8's...


From what I hear the Rx-9 will be a beast. Not as fast as the camaro/Mustang/SRT, but faster than the outgoing model. Expect it to get heavier, but gain HP and MPG.


0-60 in 5.3, 290 HP, 9k redline, 3150lbs.

[Blacksunshine]

Sorry I've been away. The engine, etc. was completely stock, but I forgot to mention I had 19-inch 235/35 gummies on the rear. I broke a motor mount that day. Also, I disagree with the RX-8 being slow after 40mph, I think its the opposite, with low torque, its slow off the line, then does better at the top end. I topped this particular car out at 140mph on a radar gun...that's all she had.

[snizzle]

To those that are interested:

http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/rotary/16x/
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/22/i...rect-injection

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by snizzle

Wrong. AT 212, MT 232

The AT was 197 up until 2005/2006 I believe when they switched from the 4 port to 6 port used in the MT. Still had to restrict the HP due to the torque converter though.

Oh, and you can't ditch the rotary in a RX car.... blasphemy.

It wouldn't be an RX then... They just need to refine it and make it work better