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yotaman96 · 01-19-2015, 03:00 PM

Are the driveshafts for the autos longer? I'm putting a ZL1 diff in my SS. Bought a driveshaft from a salvage yard that is supposed to be from a manual ZL1 MG9 code. It's quite a bit longer than my stock one and doesn't properly match up the the transmission flange. I do have the proper flange to do the swap. Only difference in it seems to be the size of the holes. Name: image.jpg
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Merc · 01-19-2015, 03:04 PM

Yes I believe the shaft for the auto is longer then the manual.

yotaman96 · 01-19-2015, 03:06 PM

Thanks. I'm guessing they sent the wrong one. Label attached shows it's the right one. Jeez.

H-E · 01-19-2015, 03:25 PM

Yes as you see there is a difference,im not sure what they charged you for a stock shaft but we can make a 1pc shaft that fits your SS tranny and the zl1 diff You could get your money back on the factory shaft and skip the issues with the rubber and non serviceable bearing as well as a refund on the yoke. If we can help you out give us a call.

yotaman96 · 01-19-2015, 03:28 PM

Just checked and the new bolts for the ZL1 shaft don't fit the salvage yard shaft. It's probably not even a ZL1 shaft. I'm doing this on a budget. Only paid $200 shipped. If they can't get me the right one, I've found another for about the same price.

CamaroCracka · 01-19-2015, 07:08 PM

If you have trouble getting a used ZL1 shaft, have you tried to see if a local driveline shop can put the correct yoke on your current shaft to match up to the ZL1 rear? Of course, then you need a ZL1 donut.

I had shafts modified for my 2500HD when I put the ZF6 in and it was around $500 out the door for both including 4 new Spicer u-joints.

Are the bolt holes in the same position on the ZL1 yoke just bigger. If so, can they be drilled and tapped for the larger bolts?

H-E · 01-20-2015, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by yotaman96

Just checked and the new bolts for the ZL1 shaft don't fit the salvage yard shaft. It's probably not even a ZL1 shaft. I'm doing this on a budget. Only paid $200 shipped. If they can't get me the right one, I've found another for about the same price.

Well hopefully youll get it worked out.They may want more once the figure out what you want.If i can help you out let me know

Nitroman28 · 01-25-2015, 06:17 PM

Sorry to step in on your post but I have close to the same question. I have a 4l80 with stock SS rear. If I buy the ZL1 3.73 rear will my drive shaft work?

yotaman96 · 01-25-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitroman28

Sorry to step in on your post but I have close to the same question. I have a 4l80 with stock SS rear. If I buy the ZL1 3.73 rear will my drive shaft work?

No, it will not.

benjbass · 12-31-2016, 12:23 AM

I need some help and would really appreciate any input. I recently put in a 2013 zl1 differential in my 2014 manual Camaro SS. However, I got it out of an automatic. (though I got the entire thing for 1400 including axles and driveshaft). I did not realize that the driveshaft is longer in the automatics. I am So, I am looking into shortening the drive shaft but I don't know how much I need to tell them to shorten it.
PFA

bct10985 · 12-31-2016, 07:19 AM

Driveshaft shop will have all the measurements. Better yet just buy a 1 piece from them

Moto-Mojo · 01-01-2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Merc

Yes I believe the shaft for the auto is longer then the manual.

Seems odd an auto trans would be SHORTER than a manual but I'm not sure. And I'm in the driveshaft business. Fortunately, we don't sell or see the need for too many replacements on Camaros.

jscott · 01-02-2017, 06:37 AM

I have the zl1 6L90 shaft but I heard that the 6L80 is a different length.

01-19-2015, 03:00 PM	#1
yotaman96 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS1LE 2000 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 2,955 View My Garage	Driveshaft length auto vs manual? Are the driveshafts for the autos longer? I'm putting a ZL1 diff in my SS. Bought a driveshaft from a salvage yard that is supposed to be from a manual ZL1 MG9 code. It's quite a bit longer than my stock one and doesn't properly match up the the transmission flange. I do have the proper flange to do the swap. Only difference in it seems to be the size of the holes. __________________ 2017 Krypton Green SS 1LE Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans 2002 Trans Am 2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins

01-19-2015, 03:03 PM	#2
yotaman96 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS1LE 2000 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 2,955 View My Garage	__________________ 2017 Krypton Green SS 1LE Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans 2002 Trans Am 2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins

01-19-2015, 03:04 PM	#3
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,291	Yes I believe the shaft for the auto is longer then the manual. __________________ My Build Thread

01-19-2015, 03:06 PM	#4
yotaman96 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS1LE 2000 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 2,955 View My Garage	Thanks. I'm guessing they sent the wrong one. Label attached shows it's the right one. Jeez. __________________ 2017 Krypton Green SS 1LE Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans 2002 Trans Am 2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins

01-19-2015, 03:28 PM	#6
yotaman96 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS1LE 2000 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 2,955 View My Garage	Just checked and the new bolts for the ZL1 shaft don't fit the salvage yard shaft. It's probably not even a ZL1 shaft. I'm doing this on a budget. Only paid $200 shipped. If they can't get me the right one, I've found another for about the same price. __________________ 2017 Krypton Green SS 1LE Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans 2002 Trans Am 2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins

01-19-2015, 03:25 PM	#5
H-E Account Suspended Drives: 2010 zr1 Camaro 2011 vert Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: everywhere Posts: 1,121	Yes as you see there is a difference,im not sure what they charged you for a stock shaft but we can make a 1pc shaft that fits your SS tranny and the zl1 diff You could get your money back on the factory shaft and skip the issues with the rubber and non serviceable bearing as well as a refund on the yoke. If we can help you out give us a call.

01-19-2015, 07:08 PM	#7
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,735	If you have trouble getting a used ZL1 shaft, have you tried to see if a local driveline shop can put the correct yoke on your current shaft to match up to the ZL1 rear? Of course, then you need a ZL1 donut. I had shafts modified for my 2500HD when I put the ZF6 in and it was around $500 out the door for both including 4 new Spicer u-joints. Are the bolt holes in the same position on the ZL1 yoke just bigger. If so, can they be drilled and tapped for the larger bolts? __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

01-25-2015, 06:17 PM	#9
Nitroman28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 416/4L80 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,835 View My Garage	Sorry to step in on your post but I have close to the same question. I have a 4l80 with stock SS rear. If I buy the ZL1 3.73 rear will my drive shaft work?

12-31-2016, 12:23 AM	#11
benjbass Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: United States Posts: 9	I need some help and would really appreciate any input. I recently put in a 2013 zl1 differential in my 2014 manual Camaro SS. However, I got it out of an automatic. (though I got the entire thing for 1400 including axles and driveshaft). I did not realize that the driveshaft is longer in the automatics. I am So, I am looking into shortening the drive shaft but I don't know how much I need to tell them to shorten it. PFA __________________ 2014 camaro ss FBO Nitrous Cammed

12-31-2016, 07:19 AM	#12
bct10985 Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dover, De Posts: 1,451	Driveshaft shop will have all the measurements. Better yet just buy a 1 piece from them __________________ ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph

01-02-2017, 06:37 AM	#14
jscott Drives: 2010 2SS RS M6 npp e-force Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: South Texas Posts: 58	I have the zl1 6L90 shaft but I heard that the 6L80 is a different length.