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Partick · 10-20-2009, 11:13 AM

Well done on the spreadsheet! Very informative and straightforward. I have the Roto-Fab and was hoping for better numbers but I'm still happy with it!

SSOOCH · 10-20-2009, 11:17 AM

I am just shocked at the Hennessey CAI results! And it costs $500!!

I almost ordered that thing!!

HaveBlue · 10-20-2009, 11:21 AM

I think anyone would be happy with any of these kit. Great job guys.

The lean power increase reminds me, an engine builder told me once "lean makes more power, ......right up until things turn ugly".

I'd definitely get a tune.

Thanks for the thorough testing Ted (and your guys that helped!)

D1BADZ · 10-20-2009, 11:21 AM

Thanks for all the hard work. personally im gonna wait for vararam, since they have there satisfaction gaurantee!

caverman · 10-20-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodscamaro

Can someone post a link to CIA. Thanks!!!

http://www.coldairinductions.com/

Look at my other theard for CAI. I just posted an update after calling them.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48214

futrocpd · 10-20-2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowley

Look forward to checking out the results once I am home. I can't get to the spreadsheet from work.

Thanks,
Crowley

same here

Croathlete · 10-20-2009, 11:43 AM

So with a tune, New Era would theoretically make the most power?

franknbeans · 10-20-2009, 11:43 AM

I attached a picture for you dudes at work.

HaveBlue · 10-20-2009, 11:44 AM

From other thread, now closed.

Quote:

2SSRS
2G1FT1EW4A9103359

I don't mean any disrespect But the test was not worth the time as no one drove the car after CAI change this E38 ESM need time to learn or it FU.. up the AFR and that is why it makes so small a deference in HP in all the units, If you wear on and looked at the New Era install you will see it was smoking good as you start the car and it was tiring to find its happy place.
It also stalled after it started.

Dude! Get your dyno ready! You can do the next tests.

Morepwr · 10-20-2009, 11:44 AM

Fantastic job!

Lots of very good and interesting info there. Good effort and thank you for the work and the post of the results.

HaveBlue · 10-20-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croathlete

So with a tune, New Era would theoretically make the most power?

ALL would make more power with a tune. I think the OTR's would really come into there own with mainifold/head/cam changes.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

From other thread, now closed.

Dude! Get your dyno ready! You can do the next tests.

Have done it long ago.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-20-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comm54

Hey Uncle Ted

I can't thank you enough for doing this for all of us!

Great spreadsheet

i would like to know if you can tell me: Why is the "fuel trim" different? How does it get changed? If the fuel trim was "turned up" on the CAI, would it make more horsepower?
And the IAT reading: what are "Good Numbers" compared to stock? Should they be higher,lower, or unchanged?
Thanks Again and Have A Great Day!

Fuel Trims are a result of Mass air flow measuring error.

Goes like this (Short version) Mass Air Meter (MAF) and Intake Air Temp Sensor (IAT) in MAF Measure air flow in Grams Per second per cylinder, computer calculates how much fuel is to be sprayed in cylinder, then Oxygen Sensors (O2) Read Air fuel Ratio (A/F) then Computer Trims Fuel + or - % to correct O2 error.

So if Maf is incorrect in measure actual air flow O2 pick up the slack and shows up as Fuel Trims.

Moving, Rotating, chaning the size or shape of the pipes before or after the sensor will affect readings, this is why these manufactuerers have to work so hard to find the sweet spot for each system.

Ted.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-20-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

2SSRS
2G1FT1EW4A9103359

I don't mean any disrespect But the test was not worth the time as no one drove the car after CAI change this E38 ESM need time to learn or it FU.. up the AFR and that is why it makes so small a deference in HP in all the units, If you wear on and looked at the New Era install you will see it was smoking good as you start the car and it was tiring to find its happy place.
It also stalled after it started.

I Don't know what you expect the computer to learn after 5-10 minutes of driving but I can tell you from the data logs that they learn extremely fast and not much changes after only a few miles.

I don't think your giving these computers enough credit.

These cars would have to lose power before they can gain the power gains that are claimed.

Every LS3 we dynoed comes in at 372-378, RWHP STOCK Put a Varraram on a Completely stock car fully warmed up, drive it as long as you want to and show us the numbers claimed.

It stalled because I let the clutch out too fast my fault Not the air intake

10-20-2009, 11:17 AM	#30
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,358 View My Garage	I am just shocked at the Hennessey CAI results! And it costs $500!! I almost ordered that thing!! __________________

10-20-2009, 11:21 AM	#31
HaveBlue Drives: CTS/CAMARO Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SEMA/PERF INDUSTRY GUY Posts: 488	I think anyone would be happy with any of these kit. Great job guys. The lean power increase reminds me, an engine builder told me once "lean makes more power, ......right up until things turn ugly". I'd definitely get a tune. Thanks for the thorough testing Ted (and your guys that helped!) __________________ "everyone wants to go to heaven. but nobody wants to die" "you gotta pay to play" SEMA PICTURES-PARTS & CARS http://www.pbase.com/haveblue/sema_2009

10-20-2009, 11:21 AM	#32
D1BADZ hmmmmm Drives: 2010 IOM in-n-out 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,325 View My Garage	Thanks for all the hard work. personally im gonna wait for vararam, since they have there satisfaction gaurantee! __________________ "Responsibility is a Heavy Responsibilty" (Cheech)

10-20-2009, 11:43 AM	#35
Croathlete Danny Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,656	So with a tune, New Era would theoretically make the most power? __________________ 2SS/RS CGM with black rally stripes DON_RAFA describing my Noweeds cutouts - "Very Strong. When I couldn't see you I still heard you. Sounds like your car is pissed at the world."

10-20-2009, 11:43 AM	#36
franknbeans Whipped Drives: 2010 CAMARO Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pittsburgh-ish - PA Posts: 4,216 View My Garage	I attached a picture for you dudes at work. Attached Images __________________ Car of the week 7/7/14

10-20-2009, 11:13 AM	#29
Partick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 958	Well done on the spreadsheet! Very informative and straightforward. I have the Roto-Fab and was hoping for better numbers but I'm still happy with it!

10-20-2009, 11:44 AM	#38
Morepwr woohoo Drives: Silverado, 70cutlass, 57chevy&more Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 558	Fantastic job! Lots of very good and interesting info there. Good effort and thank you for the work and the post of the results. __________________ I am not useless, I can still be used as a bad example!

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