07-18-2009, 06:18 PM | #15 |
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No there is not, That is the problem, To save some $ GM is using the same reservoir for the two, I can you see it now in 1 year we will have to Have the ABS replaced or repaired because of the Clutch dust in your brake master cylinder.
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07-19-2009, 12:47 AM | #16 | |
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Maybe we need to add separate clutch reservoirs...idk
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07-19-2009, 05:37 AM | #17 |
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I just cant believe they expose that slave cyl to so much heat. What were they smoking, clutch dust?
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07-19-2009, 12:21 PM | #18 |
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lol and how would clutch dust get in the fluid?its a sealed system..the fluid gets overheated the discolored fluid is a combination of things like additives in fluid breaking down also you get some debri from the actual insides of the lines from the high heat and then cooling down,just flush out the brake/clutch fluid completely when you start to see a dramatic color change or buy brake test strips and change according to results,also if there clutch dust in the fluid you have bigger problems then fluid issues
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And this too, "How Clutch Dust Enter the Fluid Update February 17, 2009 --------------------------------------- Today I spent time at the workbench with two Chevy master technicians (one who’s worked on Corvettes since the C3 was first released). We examined the operation of the Corvette clutch actuator and concluded following: 1. The bell housing is fouled with blown clutch dust during aggressive driving. 2. Clutch dust is penetrating the accordion shield on the actuator main shaft. That is obvious from visual inspection. 3. The piston slides along the shaft sealed by an O-ring. The shaft has a film of lubricant or clutch fluid on it. During aggressive driving, this film gets coated on each stroke with a fine layer of blow clutch dust. That is obvious from visual inspection. 4. The O-ring slides along the shaft and squeegees some of the clutch dust down the shaft where it contacts the clutch fluid and is infused. 5. The conclusions were unanimous and seemed obvious from a physical exam of the surfaces involved. Plus, keep in mind that it is confirmed that clutch dust is getting into the fluid. The question is how. We believe the answer to that is in points 1-5 above." And to add to this we use DOT3 not DOT4 this is more $ savings on gm part But the boiling point temp is lower on DOT3 than DOT4. |
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07-19-2009, 09:36 PM | #22 |
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if dust gets in so does air which means you would have all kinds of other issues,im just not buying it sorry and brake fluid already gets hot thats what it does i think you guys are over egineering this thing
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07-19-2009, 11:05 PM | #23 |
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Ok guys u need to take a closer look at your master cylinder! The brake and clutch do not share fluid, it may appear that way, take the cap off and look and you'll see there is a divider, brake fluid is on the left, clutch on the right!!!! Smart gm!!! Or should we say Holden!!!
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07-19-2009, 11:08 PM | #24 | |
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constituents were detected in all three samples. In addition the physical appearance and general particle size was identical for all three samples. This suggests strongly that clutch dust is present in both samples #1 and #2. In the EDXA plots below we see a strong concentration of either copper (Cu) or iron (Fe) as well as some secondary elemental similarities such as sulfur (S) and magnesium (Mg). Did you go to the PDF file. |
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07-19-2009, 11:52 PM | #25 |
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all im saying is this is being way over thought,if the fluid is nasty flush it,most people never flush there brake fluid,when we test brake fluid we find those contaminates all the time.
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07-21-2009, 12:22 AM | #27 |
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1320junkie, thanks for the info about the clutch! definitely somethign to keep in mind when it comes to general maintenance on my car....
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07-21-2009, 01:17 AM | #28 |
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Yes, this exact symptom happen to my C5. I figured that I boiled the clutch fluid. Shortly after the incident I changed the fluid to the brand "Redline" and I never experienced the problem again.
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