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oachalon · 07-19-2020, 07:14 PM

Hi,

2010 Camaro SS supercharged running 315 in rear and 285 in front. i have solid cradle bushings im going to install, but looking to get this heavy girl to move.
What is everyones recommendations and part numbers.

Thoughts were:

Either ZL1 rear bar or the DSE rear bar
which bar do i run in the front (ZL1, 1LE, leave stock?)
LCA upgrade
Bilstein B6 (anyone have part numbers)
What springs. Dont really want to go lower and am looking for ride quality still
Im assuming i need to change my strut mounts to a 1LE design?

What else am i missing or should change

Again if you guys got part numbers would be helpful.

its just a street fun car.

Thanks,

Vegas Bound · 07-19-2020, 08:37 PM

It's just a fun street car, leave it all stock.

Avenging Orange · 07-19-2020, 09:23 PM

Lots of opinions out there. I did BMR cradle/diff/front radius/upper control arm bushings. Detroit Speed rear sway conversion kit and GM lca's. BMR 1" lowering springs with the fe4 shocks/struts. Cars handling increased dramatically but still retains a smooth ride by using GM shocks/struts. Some of the others (1le, B6 and Konis seem to have a harsher ride. I think I managed to get the best of both worlds...as I am a summer only non daily driver....its just for fun.
This is just my opinion....because it was what I wanted out of my car. Everyone's taste is different. Keep reading and learning before you just throw money at it.
Good luck.

olblue75 · 07-19-2020, 11:15 PM

Find a DSE rear 35mm bar a 1LE front bar, a set of B6’s with 1LE rear shock mounts, strut mounts are all the same unless you go camber plates.
A square set up tire wise on 20x10 frt and 20x11 rear.
A set of Z28 rear upper control mounts for the rear of the arm.
Do the conversion on the rear suspension for the outboard mount sway bar.
Front control arm inserts.
Now if you wanna get really serious go either BMR or DSE LCAs, Toe Rods, and Trailing Arms, and a set of Sub Frame solid bushings.
Car will be Rock Solid!!!
Now if you really wanna wake it up do a set of 3.91’s or 4.11’s.

oachalon · 07-20-2020, 06:43 AM

I am not running a square setup so not sure I should use the 1le front bar. 315s in the rear 285s in the front currently.

Definitely don’t need gears, I’m at 630 at the wheel on a mustang dyno.

oachalon · 07-20-2020, 08:42 PM

How much worse is the ride quality with the B6 vs the stock 2010 SS, also what about compared to the 1LE setup?

gtstorey · 07-21-2020, 08:29 AM

At 80k miles, the B6 rode much better than the stock. I can't compare to new original shocks.

oachalon · 07-21-2020, 11:10 AM

I just ordered the Bilstein B6's. Probably going to leave the front sway bar for now and go with the ZL1/1LE rear bar.

Now i need the LCA's and the upgraded rear strut mounts.

My next question, continue using stock springs or look at someone elses. I dont really need to sit any lower than the car now. I see the BMR or DSE springs are a popular setup with it though.

gtstorey · 07-21-2020, 12:02 PM

Mine had the PFADT lowering springs on when I purchased it so I really can't compare with stock. Mine is firm, but I don't find it uncomfortable. I guess that depends on the condition of the roads you drive.

Lowering isn't just for looks though, you should see a handling benefit to the lower center of gravity. If your roads are decent you should consider lowering. If they are crap, it probably isn't worth the trade off.

oachalon · 07-21-2020, 01:06 PM

They are northeast ohio roads, so salt definitely destroys our roads. Not michigan bad, but not far off.

taz1727 · 07-21-2020, 03:31 PM

I'm running 1le shocks/struts with BMR 1.25" springs... is it stiff? yes, but not backbreaking and its my DD. Performance wise its such a massive upgrade especially for the rear, car feels a bit more planted on WOT.

SIM GhostrdrZ · 07-21-2020, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oachalon

They are northeast ohio roads, so salt definitely destroys our roads. Not michigan bad, but not far off.

NE OH roads are terrible

oachalon · 07-21-2020, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taz1727

I'm running 1le shocks/struts with BMR 1.25" springs... is it stiff? yes, but not backbreaking and its my DD. Performance wise its such a massive upgrade especially for the rear, car feels a bit more planted on WOT.

That scares me a little. I hear the B6's are better with the springs than the 1LE shocks/struts though.

Pearlj10 · 07-21-2020, 11:01 PM

I haven’t been a fan of lowering springs but just installed the Hotchkis set per recommendation of a Cam5 vendor. I love them and the ride is great, not harsh like I feared. Running them with stock F4 struts with 1LE mounts. Z28 mounts are even better but cost about twice as much. If I were you, I’d consider the mono tube 1LE rear struts. A lot of folks have reported that the B6s ride stiff with stock springs. All perspective I suppose. I also installed poly cradle bushings and Z28 upper rear control arm bushings along with 1LE toe rods. Front rad rod poly inserts and poly sway bushings on the front. Handling is pretty darn amazing to me so far. The more vehicles I’ve modded, the more I respect hi-po factory engineering and reliability.

07-19-2020, 07:14 PM	#1
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	Finally ready to do suspension Hi, 2010 Camaro SS supercharged running 315 in rear and 285 in front. i have solid cradle bushings im going to install, but looking to get this heavy girl to move. What is everyones recommendations and part numbers. Thoughts were: Either ZL1 rear bar or the DSE rear bar which bar do i run in the front (ZL1, 1LE, leave stock?) LCA upgrade Bilstein B6 (anyone have part numbers) What springs. Dont really want to go lower and am looking for ride quality still Im assuming i need to change my strut mounts to a 1LE design? What else am i missing or should change Again if you guys got part numbers would be helpful. its just a street fun car. Thanks, __________________ 2010 1SS/RS LS3 M6 Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, 3.00" Pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power LT Headers, LPE Dual Fuel Pump, ID850's, Custom Grind Cam, Katzkin Leather/Suede Interior 630RWHP mustang dyno.

07-19-2020, 09:23 PM	#3
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Lots of opinions out there. I did BMR cradle/diff/front radius/upper control arm bushings. Detroit Speed rear sway conversion kit and GM lca's. BMR 1" lowering springs with the fe4 shocks/struts. Cars handling increased dramatically but still retains a smooth ride by using GM shocks/struts. Some of the others (1le, B6 and Konis seem to have a harsher ride. I think I managed to get the best of both worlds...as I am a summer only non daily driver....its just for fun. This is just my opinion....because it was what I wanted out of my car. Everyone's taste is different. Keep reading and learning before you just throw money at it. Good luck. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

07-19-2020, 11:15 PM	#4
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	Find a DSE rear 35mm bar a 1LE front bar, a set of B6’s with 1LE rear shock mounts, strut mounts are all the same unless you go camber plates. A square set up tire wise on 20x10 frt and 20x11 rear. A set of Z28 rear upper control mounts for the rear of the arm. Do the conversion on the rear suspension for the outboard mount sway bar. Front control arm inserts. Now if you wanna get really serious go either BMR or DSE LCAs, Toe Rods, and Trailing Arms, and a set of Sub Frame solid bushings. Car will be Rock Solid!!! Now if you really wanna wake it up do a set of 3.91’s or 4.11’s. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

07-20-2020, 06:43 AM	#5
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	I am not running a square setup so not sure I should use the 1le front bar. 315s in the rear 285s in the front currently. Definitely don’t need gears, I’m at 630 at the wheel on a mustang dyno. __________________ 2010 1SS/RS LS3 M6 Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, 3.00" Pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power LT Headers, LPE Dual Fuel Pump, ID850's, Custom Grind Cam, Katzkin Leather/Suede Interior 630RWHP mustang dyno.

07-20-2020, 08:42 PM	#6
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	How much worse is the ride quality with the B6 vs the stock 2010 SS, also what about compared to the 1LE setup? __________________ 2010 1SS/RS LS3 M6 Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, 3.00" Pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power LT Headers, LPE Dual Fuel Pump, ID850's, Custom Grind Cam, Katzkin Leather/Suede Interior 630RWHP mustang dyno.

07-19-2020, 08:37 PM	#2
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	It's just a fun street car, leave it all stock.

07-21-2020, 08:29 AM	#7
gtstorey Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2,L99, LSA SC Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,155	At 80k miles, the B6 rode much better than the stock. I can't compare to new original shocks.

07-21-2020, 11:10 AM	#8
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	I just ordered the Bilstein B6's. Probably going to leave the front sway bar for now and go with the ZL1/1LE rear bar. Now i need the LCA's and the upgraded rear strut mounts. My next question, continue using stock springs or look at someone elses. I dont really need to sit any lower than the car now. I see the BMR or DSE springs are a popular setup with it though. __________________ 2010 1SS/RS LS3 M6 Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, 3.00" Pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power LT Headers, LPE Dual Fuel Pump, ID850's, Custom Grind Cam, Katzkin Leather/Suede Interior 630RWHP mustang dyno.

07-21-2020, 12:02 PM	#9
gtstorey Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2,L99, LSA SC Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,155	Mine had the PFADT lowering springs on when I purchased it so I really can't compare with stock. Mine is firm, but I don't find it uncomfortable. I guess that depends on the condition of the roads you drive. Lowering isn't just for looks though, you should see a handling benefit to the lower center of gravity. If your roads are decent you should consider lowering. If they are crap, it probably isn't worth the trade off.

07-21-2020, 01:06 PM	#10
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	They are northeast ohio roads, so salt definitely destroys our roads. Not michigan bad, but not far off. __________________ 2010 1SS/RS LS3 M6 Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, 3.00" Pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power LT Headers, LPE Dual Fuel Pump, ID850's, Custom Grind Cam, Katzkin Leather/Suede Interior 630RWHP mustang dyno.

07-21-2020, 03:31 PM	#11
taz1727 Drives: 13 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2020 Location: Miami Posts: 104	I'm running 1le shocks/struts with BMR 1.25" springs... is it stiff? yes, but not backbreaking and its my DD. Performance wise its such a massive upgrade especially for the rear, car feels a bit more planted on WOT. __________________ K&N Intake/ Pray Ported TB/ GPI Rod-Mod Intake Manifold/ GPI Ported Heads/ GPI SS3 Cam/ TSP 1-7/8" LTH to NPP/ Z/28 Diff/ Hendrix Offset Bushings/ BMR Delrin Cradle Bushings/ Pedders 27/32mm Sway Bars/ 1LE Shocks & Struts/ BMR 1.25 Springs/ Mishimoto Catch Can

07-21-2020, 11:01 PM	#14
Pearlj10 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Az Posts: 367	I haven’t been a fan of lowering springs but just installed the Hotchkis set per recommendation of a Cam5 vendor. I love them and the ride is great, not harsh like I feared. Running them with stock F4 struts with 1LE mounts. Z28 mounts are even better but cost about twice as much. If I were you, I’d consider the mono tube 1LE rear struts. A lot of folks have reported that the B6s ride stiff with stock springs. All perspective I suppose. I also installed poly cradle bushings and Z28 upper rear control arm bushings along with 1LE toe rods. Front rad rod poly inserts and poly sway bushings on the front. Handling is pretty darn amazing to me so far. The more vehicles I’ve modded, the more I respect hi-po factory engineering and reliability.