Opinions on the TSP cleetus mcfarland bald eagle NA LS3 cam

[Ashen L99]

Originally Posted by Winemedineme69me

Watch this YouTube video of different sides headers being compared on a 427 engine where the 1 7/8 and 2" made more power than the 1 3/4" but at the end they compare the 1 3/4" vs. 1 7/8" on a canned cammed LS3 and there was no difference other than the 1 3/4" made more torque down low. So, it's not worth me having to buy another set of headers and pay another $400 to replace them again for virtually no gains and maybe even lose torque down low.

Here is the link.

https://youtu.be/O1bXPNy1Yn4

I can tell by the brand of header you have that your not a fan, just like me, of not paying $1200 for bent metal tubing... I’ll never buy kooks, ARH, or stainless works on principle that they way over charge. My argument isn’t based on cubes rather RPM. I promise with any cam choice you make, the car will benefit from having an 1 7/8 primary over the 1 3/4. That tick cam will make power to 7 grand. I bet at 6,500 she starts to choke.

[saluki]

Originally Posted by Ashen L99

I promise with any cam choice you make, the car will benefit from having an 1 7/8 primary over the 1 3/4.

Stock cam scales all the way to 2". It starts tapering off hard at 1 7/8 on stock cam but 5hp is still extra 5 hp over the 1 7/8. Any aftermarket cam is going to be screwed on 1 3/4.

[_Onyx_Wolf_]

Originally Posted by Winemedineme69me

I'm actually going to get the tick polluter stage 3 cam, as far as the headers all the dyno test videos I've seen on the LS3 that the 1 7/8 really doesn't give much of anything and you actually lose a little torque down low. Unless I'm going big cubes or forced induction I'm not giving up much of anything with the 1 3/4 and more torque down low. I want to change it the harmonic balancer anyway because they are crap and wobble , so might as well do the UD pulley.

I had a tick stage 3 polluter cam and it was badass tons of low end tq

[lazerlemonta]

With a solid bolt on list no reason you cant clear 480. Personally the split doesnt need to be that much but to each grinders own theory lol I cleared 500 with a 226/236 cam and 530 with a SS4

[Winemedineme69me]

Originally Posted by Warship2k15

So you are trying to say that a test open headers with different header extensions is more valid then a wheel dyne test with the engine in the car with the full exhaust.

I think someone just doesn’t want to change headers so they are trying to validate there decision.
It’s all good it’s your car do what you want.
But I can’t agree.

What I'm saying is that I'm not seeing how spending another $400 installation labor and another $300 for 1 7/8" headers is going to be a wise choice, to gain 5 hp at 6500 rpm?? It just doesn't make any financial sense to switch them. I got the 1 3/4 for headers for $200 shipped brand new.

[Winemedineme69me]

Originally Posted by _Onyx_Wolf_

I had a tick stage 3 polluter cam and it was badass tons of low end tq

Very nice, I hear nothing but great things. I have 3.91 gears too

[saluki]

Originally Posted by Winemedineme69me

What I'm saying is that I'm not seeing how spending another $400 installation labor and another $300 for 1 7/8" headers is going to be a wise choice, to gain 5 hp at 6500 rpm?? It just doesn't make any financial sense to switch them. I got the 1 3/4 for headers for $200 shipped brand new.

With a cam it won't be just 5 hp it will scale up into the double digits pretty easily.

[Ashen L99]

Originally Posted by saluki

With a cam it won't be just 5 hp it will scale up into the double digits pretty easily.

Agreed.

[Winemedineme69me]

I have the ESS tuning G2 running the 200mm lower and 110mm upper pulley at 12psi on my 2014 Camaro SS LS3. I just put down 780rwhp at 7200rpm on a Dyno jet, I am running 93 pump gas with boostane at 100 octane. It was tuned by Jared at compJLT tuning in Victoria Texas.

Mods are:
Elite Engineering E2X ultra catch can
100 octane pump gas with boostane additive
160 degree tstat
Stock heads, stock intake manifold, stock throttle body
BTR rocker arm trunnion upgrade
Dual valve springs
Texas speed stage 3 blower cam
Melling high pressure oil pump
Ls9 3 bar map sensor
ESS tuning G2 blower kit with 200mm lower pulley and 110mm upper pulley
Ballenger AFR 500v2 wideband
FIC 80lb injectors
ZL1 fuel pump
DSX auxillary fuel pump kit
DNA motoring longtubes, no cats and stock NPP exhaust
AAM 3.91 rear end gear
BMR rear toe rods and trailing arms