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Old 04-24-2015, 10:23 PM   #15
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Have you guys tried pressing the gas pedal farther when you want to go faster..?
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:32 PM   #16
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Does Vitesse pay you guys to stroke their product this hard?
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:33 PM   #17
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Have you guys tried pressing the gas pedal farther when you want to go faster..?
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:38 PM   #18
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Does Vitesse pay you guys to stroke their product this hard?
I think vitesse has spent more money paying people on this forum to stroke their product more than they spent making it
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:40 PM   #19
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Straight from the Vitesse Throttle Controller page:

"Engine-related Performance Parts are intended for the experienced driver only. Our Throttle Controllers must not be used on public roads and in some cases may be restricted to closed course competition or Off Road use only."

I'd be curious about the off road use. lol
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:21 PM   #20
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Have you guys tried pressing the gas pedal farther when you want to go faster..?
Well, of course...but now I can go faster, faster.

No really, my car before this a cammed '96 LT4 Vette. When I pushed to go pedal it went exactly to the extent I pushed the pedal. At the same time, I had a Cadillac STS w/ the V6. It too was drive by wire. I noticed in that car that there was a lag in accleration until it hit a point then it would start to take off. I just figured it was that car with the v6. Then I got my SS, and noticed it did the same thing. Lag to point then it took off. I read up a little on drive by wire, talked with some folks, and learned that this lag is built in to the system.

The throttle controller simply removes that lag. Now, when I hit the go pedal, it goes exactly to the extent that I push the pedal. Now, at WOT, it doesn't open the TB any more, it will not decrease 1/4 mile times for this reason, it simply opens it quicker. This is really nice in partial acceleration situations, like passing, or just having some fun. All it does is amplify the voltage signal sent to the TB causing it to open quicker. That's it, no magic, no crazy gimmick. Just gives a more linear feel, and quicker response to pushing the pedal.

Anyway, that's my best description of it.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:36 PM   #21
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Just the acceleration of the car is better like Chris said. If u want HP go cam or F/I
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Old 04-25-2015, 01:47 AM   #22
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The car drives like a totally different animal with the VTC connected. It is not jerky or abrupt but the engine gets in the powerband much quicker and is more fun to drive.
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Old 04-25-2015, 02:55 AM   #23
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Well, of course...but now I can go faster, faster.

No really, my car before this a cammed '96 LT4 Vette. When I pushed to go pedal it went exactly to the extent I pushed the pedal. At the same time, I had a Cadillac STS w/ the V6. It too was drive by wire. I noticed in that car that there was a lag in accleration until it hit a point then it would start to take off. I just figured it was that car with the v6. Then I got my SS, and noticed it did the same thing. Lag to point then it took off. I read up a little on drive by wire, talked with some folks, and learned that this lag is built in to the system.

The throttle controller simply removes that lag. Now, when I hit the go pedal, it goes exactly to the extent that I push the pedal. Now, at WOT, it doesn't open the TB any more, it will not decrease 1/4 mile times for this reason, it simply opens it quicker. This is really nice in partial acceleration situations, like passing, or just having some fun. All it does is amplify the voltage signal sent to the TB causing it to open quicker. That's it, no magic, no crazy gimmick. Just gives a more linear feel, and quicker response to pushing the pedal.

Anyway, that's my best description of it.
Yeah, what he said!
I drank the coolaid as well for my cts and it does exactly what it claims. Im not saying it is adding any HP but let me say it feels/seat of pants/butt dyno/fun factor, better in all catagories than other "real MODS" that claim HP gains.
I find it funny that some enthusiast here refuse to except it for what it is, put it down and keep on with the "my right foot is basicaly faster than a computer" type responses. Lol
Not saying there's not but show me another product thats gotten this much positive feedback in this range.
Think we have a new pound for pound champion!
Wait, was that considered "stroking" ?
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:17 AM   #24
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Straight from the Vitesse Throttle Controller page:

"Engine-related Performance Parts are intended for the experienced driver only. Our Throttle Controllers must not be used on public roads and in some cases may be restricted to closed course competition or Off Road use only."
This statement, I'm sure, is only there to protect Vitesse from potential lawsuits by idiots who don't have proper respect for a high-powered vehicle. As we've seen proven many times here, this type of person will eventually wreck their car because they pushed it beyond the limits of their driving skills. That's why the VTC has variable SP settings (SP0 - SP9). You can adjust the throttle response time to your skill level. The significantly quicker response time (settings SP5-SP9) take some getting used to and there are folks out there who won't take the time to adjust to it.

The difference between our cars without the VTC versus with the VTC, is like the difference between your PC being plugged into a dial-up modem versus being plugged into DSL. It's that significant.

It doesn't make your car faster... but it definitely makes it quicker.
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Old 04-25-2015, 06:32 AM   #25
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This statement, I'm sure, is only there to protect Vitesse from potential lawsuits by idiots who don't have proper respect for a high-powered vehicle. As we've seen proven many times here, this type of person will eventually wreck their car because they pushed it beyond the limits of their driving skills. That's why the VTC has variable SP settings (SP0 - SP9). You can adjust the throttle response time to your skill level. The significantly quicker response time (settings SP5-SP9) take some getting used to and there are folks out there who won't take the time to adjust to it.

The difference between our cars without the VTC versus with the VTC, is like the difference between your PC being plugged into a dial-up modem versus being plugged into DSL. It's that significant.

It doesn't make your car faster... but it definitely makes it quicker.
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Old 04-25-2015, 06:48 AM   #26
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I hated the throttle response when I bought my Camaro SS, so just recently there was a thread and a guy had just bought a Camaro and was asking what were some mods he should do, and a couple guys chimed in and said definitely your first mod should be a Viteese Throttle Controller, now this was the first time I had heard about this and started looking into it more, now this was only two weeks ago and decided that from what I had read, this would be a good purchase and it was under two hundred bucks. It arrived last Saturday and I installed it, and OMG what a difference it makes and the smiles on my face it gave me was incredible, I tried all the settings and for daily driving settled for the 5. I am sure everyone that has one of these has got to feel like they gained horsepower, but its just that instead of sticking your foot all the way in the pedal the controller is doing it for you, so your pedal doesn't travel as far to get the same response. Its like a stock shifter compared to a short throw shifter, it does the same thing just in less space! In my opinion this is the first thing you should do to your Camaro.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:19 AM   #27
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Can someone tell me at roughly what point in the pedal travel does the throttle hit wide open throttle (100%) compared to stock? Is it before the pedal hits the floor or is it roughly at the same point of pedal travel as stock?
Throttle-by-wire can be (and probably is) a whole lot more complex than that - even the speed that you move your foot down is a likely input. You'd need to have access to a bunch of datalogging data.


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Straight from the Vitesse Throttle Controller page:

"Engine-related Performance Parts are intended for the experienced driver only. Our Throttle Controllers must not be used on public roads and in some cases may be restricted to closed course competition or Off Road use only."

I'd be curious about the off road use. lol
My money is on the matter of a too-responsive throttle under wet conditions (or worse) making it easier for a car so equipped to "get away from" its driver. They may have to assume that said driver might only have a few weeks of driving experience.


I'm honestly curious about any differences in traction control behavior with this mod in place. At any setting(s). Has anybody done any with/without tests or compared significantly different settings back to back to find out?


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Old 04-25-2015, 07:32 AM   #28
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I got more throttle response after I talking a ported throttle body BW, and I drove a friends Camaro with bolt one and a tune without Vitesse and his car was so much more responsive than my car without a tune.
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