SPIED: next gen hi-po SVT Mustang spied in testing

[Truck Norris]

Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

Until it beats that around a road course then Ford has plenty of improvement to be made as far as performance goes.

I'm also over the 13+ GT500 but I gotta inform you that the GT500 did record a quicker lap time then the ZL1 around Laguna Seca in Motor Trend's best drivers car competition last year.





also at Streets of Willow during Inside Lines compro and would of most likely beat it everywhere else if the brake fluid was changed to dot 4 like the owners manual states when being used for competitive racing.

[Bhobbs]

If this car comes out built like the rumors, GM is going to have a hard time fielding a Camaro that can compete. A flat plane crank, dual over head cam, direct injected engine slightly north of 5.0 liters would be a hell of a motor.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

If this car comes out built like the rumors, GM is going to have a hard time fielding a Camaro that can compete. A flat plane crank, dual over head cam, direct injected engine slightly north of 5.0 liters would be a hell of a motor.

Even if that happens to be the case, it would only be vs the upper tier cars. But Corvette is more than able to top Mustang's performance when it gets to that level. Which honestly may be Fords plan. Have lower trim Mustangs that spar with Camaro but then transcend that level and take on some levels of Corvette with top level Mustangs.

No one knows really. All we can do take shots in the dark until the future unveils itself over the next generation or two.

[Firefighter]

It's about time they put brakes and tires under one of those things...

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Even if that happens to be the case, it would only be vs the upper tier cars. But Corvette is more than able to top Mustang's performance when it gets to that level. Which honestly may be Fords plan. Have lower trim Mustangs that spar with Camaro but then transcend that level and take on some levels of Corvette with top level Mustangs.

No one knows really. All we can do take shots in the dark until the future unveils itself over the next generation or two.

I doubt anyone would seriously consider the Mustang a competitor to the Corvette. It would be a major change to the Mustang to make it come close to a Corvette in anything but straight line performance.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I doubt anyone would seriously consider the Mustang a competitor to the Corvette. It would be a major change to the Mustang to make it come close to a Corvette in anything but straight line performance.

Its not entirely without some president. Terminator was, I'm sure, closer than Chevy liked to the non Z06 '02-'04 Vettes. Not that they were equal mind you, just that there was only a small performance gap.

Either way, you state that it would be a major change, and I believe that's what we're looking at. A "new" platform for Mustang developed with knowledge gained from programs like Boss302 (LS, S, & R) and FR500 (S, C, & GT) before that. Integration of ILIRS, as opposed to the heavily compromised IRS attempt of the SN95 age. DWIFS to move away from the ever aging MacPherson Strut design. Add to that the rumors of things like the "Voodoo" V8 and platform weight loss (even if it's not the overzealously stated 400lbs) can only improve the breed. As a car in Mustangs position stands, if they exceed Camaro's performance barrier there is only the next echelon of cars to compair it to (e.g. Corvette, Viper, etc.)

[Apex Motorsports]

IMO, it is a joke that Ford thinks they can use a pony car to fight the Camaro and the Corvette. The Camaro is the Mustang's competition. No matter what Ford does with the Mustang, GM has made it clear that they will use the Camaro to counter it. The Corvette is a totally different car aimed at a different customer. If you want to know what GM thinks of the Corvette brand just look at what cars they used to bench mark the C7. It certainly isn't Mustang company.

[Firefighter]

Chase, is that a Ford Econoline and a Toyota mini van? Whoa!


Just playing... lol

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Chase, is that a Ford Econoline and a Toyota mini van? Whoa!


Just playing... lol

The cars haul ass, the vans haul asses.

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

IMO, it is a joke that Ford thinks they can use a pony car to fight the the Corvette. The Camaro is the Mustang's competition. No matter what Ford does with the Mustang, GM has made it clear that they will use the Camaro to counter it. The Corvette is a totally different car aimed at a different customer. If you want to know what GM thinks of the Corvette brand just look at what cars they used to bench mark the C7. It certainly isn't Mustang company.

I seriously doubt Ford is expecting to best the Corvette *especially the upcoming supercar-level performing ones* with their next Mustang.

But what's wrong with setting a great benchmark to aim for?

[crysalis_01]

Exactly, I don't think we'll see Mustang go toe-to-toe with ZR1 or Z07pkg cars. But there's nothing saying they won't give Z51 and maybe down the road, base Z06 cars, a great run for their money. Honestly, I don't see Ford even wanting to play in the super niche market of the "supercar" at all. Which is why even though they could build a car of that class, I dont see the bean counters allowing something with a highly questionable ROI.