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Old 11-05-2019, 08:12 PM   #15
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nice! i myself would have just stuck with the 1LE they look identical.
so the big difference is 7.0 dry sump motor and high dollar breaks??? educate me.
No, thats not the only difference. Someone added the Z/28 aero kit to this one (looks good though). For the Z/28, there were only 1801 made in total (and only made 2 years). The LS7 is hand built. Yea, much more expensive brakes, but they will live longer. The recaros of course (but of course other models have them too, to include the 1LE). More potential from the engine. Thats just a starting point... Ive been working on a FAQ to stick on the camaro 5th generation page due to all the misinformation and incomplete information.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:29 PM   #16
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No, thats not the only difference. Someone added the Z/28 aero kit to this one (looks good though). For the Z/28, there were only 1801 made in total (and only made 2 years). The LS7 is hand built. Yea, much more expensive brakes, but they will live longer. The recaros of course (but of course other models have them too, to include the 1LE). More potential from the engine. Thats just a starting point... Ive been working on a FAQ to stick on the camaro 5th generation page due to all the misinformation and incomplete information.
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Old 11-06-2019, 01:47 AM   #17
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Old 11-06-2019, 02:58 AM   #18
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Congrats man! That LS7 won’t disappoint you
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:11 PM   #19
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nice! i myself would have just stuck with the 1LE they look identical.
so the big difference is 7.0 dry sump motor and high dollar breaks??? educate me.
See attached - 190 different parts than SS
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:31 PM   #20
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See attached - 190 different parts than SS
SS to 1LE to Z28 and the ZL1 the Z28 is actually the king if the hill,the ZL1 has alot of unique parts also. i was really thinking that a 1LE is not too far off a Z28.

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Old 11-07-2019, 08:48 AM   #21
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See attached - 190 different parts than SS
Awesome file. Thanks for attaching.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:52 PM   #22
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No, thats not the only difference. Someone added the Z/28 aero kit to this one (looks good though). For the Z/28, there were only 1801 made in total (and only made 2 years). The LS7 is hand built. Yea, much more expensive brakes, but they will live longer. The recaros of course (but of course other models have them too, to include the 1LE). More potential from the engine. Thats just a starting point... Ive been working on a FAQ to stick on the camaro 5th generation page due to all the misinformation and incomplete information.
Do the heads have the same issues as the LS7 corvette valve guide issues?
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:48 PM   #23
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Do the heads have the same issues as the LS7 corvette valve guide issues?
It is my understanding that the Camaro LS7 has improved valve guides but some have still had issues. My greater concern is the sodium filled exhaust valves eventually failing.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:46 PM   #24
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:03 PM   #25
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I'm planning to drive the Z/28 and have girlfriend drive the 1LE and looking forward to meeting everyone. 🍻
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:22 AM   #26
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Do the heads have the same issues as the LS7 corvette valve guide issues?
This is what I learned through my research...in the end, I got some heads from GPI (that will be going on shortly)...

Many have been found out of spec. Chevy blamed the dropped valve issue on a bad machine at a vendor as the cause that was supposedly fixed back in 2011 (this is what chevy officially reported as the cause; although their TSB basically tries to avoid looking into the heads at all costs unless the customer pays for the labor, and then, only IF they find a problem while in warranty will the heads be replaced with more stock heads--my dealer basically refused to look at the heads, even when told I would pay the labor, which they bumped up significantly--tried to get 1600 just to check!). There have been heads made after they supposedly found and fixed the cause that were found to be out of spec; well out of spec in fact in some cases (beyond max tolerance when brand new and unused). The safe way to go is to do the heads. Its 2 grand for the piece of mind that you won't have to worry about it.
Chevy reported the percentage of actual failures to be VERY low (I want to say they claimed like 2%, but don't remember if thats the number or not tbh...just remember them claiming it was very low percentage); but that percentage was really just applying to the C6 Z06s built in 2011 or before. To put that number into context, there were 1801 Z/28s built, 27996 C6 Z06's built, and 2552 C6 427s built (when this percentage was stated though, there would have only been at most, 27000 Z06s built at that point). So, thats ~32349 LS7s, and at a failure rate of 2%, thats less than 650 cars that had the issue, per Chevy. The actual number is likely higher, because chevy would only know of those brought to the dealerships for repair (or otherwise reported as a failure to them). There are reports of LS7s lasting with no issues, and others crash and burn at very very low mileage, so it seems to be a crapshoot.
There are entirely too many instances of people reporting out of spec valves on brand spanking new heads though; so, again, probably safer to do the heads. Again, 2 grand = piece of mind = well fkn worth it imo.

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Old 11-09-2019, 04:59 PM   #27
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So by now many of you have seen the thread here "Found a nice 2015 Black with 34,000 miles for $33,500 if anyone is looking". First I would like to say Thank You to Dr. Chill for posting it and 1badchicken for bringing to my attention. Then I'd like to say I'm "that guy" that bought it.

I'm a Chevy guy to the core and have previously owned a couple of C4 Corvette ZR1's and currently have a 2015 Camaro 1LE. None of my previous cars have excited me quite as much as this one. Unfortunately the 1LE has to go if I'm going to keep this one but I think I can deal with that.

My buying experience and dealing with the dealer was not at all pleasant. I did drive the car and inspect it as thoroughly as I knew how, including from underneath on a lift. I can confirm that as many of you with keen eyes noticed the car has a few cosmetic issues that I plan to deal with as soon as I am able but all in all looks to be a great car.

I'm sure I will be reaching out here for advice and getting to know my fellow Z/28 owners and couldn't be any happier to finally be a part.

Couple pictures of it next to my 1LE and cheers for now
Glad to see a forum member got it. I always have my eyes open for good deals and post them online unless I'm the one buying!!! Just paying it forward for the deal someone posted on 12/19/14 for a new 2015 Z/28 for $53,819.

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388852

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