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Old 10-09-2019, 07:48 PM   #1
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Storage Unit Experience

Well it looks like this might be the first Winter the ZL1 has to go to a storage unit. I have some concerns about mice or animals getting at the car, or obviously someone breaking into the unit.

Has anyone else stored there ZL1 in a storage unit? If so, what was your experience or anything you recommend?

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Old 10-09-2019, 11:56 PM   #2
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Dexcool antifreeze. I wouldn't trust the dealer to check the SC circuit, I'd make sure it was plenty good myself.
Leave the drivers window down 1cm so it opens with a dead battery is a thought I don't think I've seen mentioned but sounds good at the moment?
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Old 10-10-2019, 06:54 AM   #3
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The above is good advice. I just left the drivers door open when I pulled the negative terminal. It relieves the seal but not so much as to let dust in. For thieves, pull the battery completely, set the car on jack stands and pull the wheels and remove from the storage unit. They would have to break in twice, once to realize there's no wheels or battery, then again to bring some back and install on your car to steal it. Probably the best thing is to have a storage unit that has good security and is in a good neighborhood, then when you do put the car away, don't let others see you put it in there, not even the manager. if you plan to store more than a month and have the access, use some Sta-bil in the fuel and non ethanol gasoline in the tank and make sure it's gone through the lines. fill the tank to prevent condensation on the sides from creating water. Not sure what you can do about the mice or rats except try to get a unit that's tight. Get a car cover to keep it clean.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:02 AM   #4
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As longf as the storage unit has electricity, use a battery tender. My unit didn't have any outlets, but it did have an overhead light bulb, so that's where I plugged the tender into using a socket outlet adapter you can find at your local home improvement store.

Most storage rental offices sell tubs of desiccant, I put one in the back seat, one in the trunk, one in the front seat.

Dryer sheets around to keep mice at bay.

Some put corse steel wool in the tail pipes to keep the rodents out. If you forget to remove them in the spring, the exhaust should blow them right out.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:38 AM   #5
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I store my camaro each winter - here is my process.

-Detail the car
-Fresh oil change right before going into storage
-Top off the gas tank and add stabil
-I clean the storage unit and spray it for bugs
-lay a tarp down on the concrete storage unit floor
-park on carpet squares(do not store your car on jack stands - bad for your suspension)
-I put moth ball at all 4 corners under the outside of the car (they dont like the smell)
-put towels in your exhaust tips
-put bounce dryer sheets in your engine bay and interior (bugs and animals do not like the smell
-add a tub of dampRid on the floor board
-either leave the window cracked or the drivers door slightly opened and pull the battery.
-I put a towel over the trunk latch so it can not latch closed
-put cover on car
-place battery in the Garage at home on a battery tender

Come back in the spring and remove everything and start it up.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:32 AM   #6
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+This is an everyday, all year occurrence for me; However my car is stored in a garage. The above posts are very good tips for storage. I'll usually keep my windows closed, however. It will pay dividends if the car is well detailed, fresh oil and gas, and covered when it is away for the winter. You should definitely use a battery tender to monitor and maintain the charge level in the battery. If power access is an issue, you could either try a solar battery tender, or swap batteries every once in awhile during the winter.

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Air up the tires to the maximum inflation pressure listed on the sidewall to minimize flatspot problems.
If you can, after a month or 6 weeks start it up and let it run at least 15 20min. put like a 2x4 about 6inches or a foot in front of where it's parked, moveit forwards and backwards and so you can pull back up to where it hits the 2x4, then the tires resting on a different place than they were. or e.g. drive around the building and they won't be back on the same resting place but I assume snow ice around it so simply move bak a foot or two and up will accomplish the same thing. Circulating fluids and helping seals and charging battery, keeping injectors and motors unstuck etc. On that note it's a good idea to at least briefly turn on AC a time or two during the winter to lube the seals preventing leaks.
I like these green chunks for bait, just watchout that your or others dogs won't eat them, put in a plastic thing or out of reach or like inside the unit without pets around.

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Old 10-10-2019, 01:21 PM   #8
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Air up the tires to the maximum inflation pressure listed on the sidewall to minimize flatspot problems.
If you can, after a month or 6 weeks start it up and let it run at least 15 20min. put like a 2x4 about 6inches or a foot in front of where it's parked, moveit forwards and backwards and so you can pull back up to where it hits the 2x4, then the tires resting on a different place than they were. or e.g. drive around the building and they won't be back on the same resting place but I assume snow ice around it so simply move bak a foot or two and up will accomplish the same thing. Circulating fluids and helping seals and charging battery, keeping injectors and motors unstuck etc. On that note it's a good idea to at least briefly turn on AC a time or two during the winter to lube the seals preventing leaks.
I like these green chunks for bait, just watchout that your or others dogs won't eat them, put in a plastic thing or out of reach or like inside the unit without pets around.

TOMCAT Mouse Killer 16-count 1-oz Mouse Bait

I see you are in Michigan so I would skip the winter startups as unless you can get everything really hot you wont get the condensation out of the oil and you will have to rev it pretty hard to blow all the condensation out of the exhaust or it will just pool inside. I have seen you on here for sometime so you should be over the excitement of having to to start it, so unless you can drive it, no advantage. Just as suggested change oil and drive to the stoarge unit with the cylinders having a fresh coat of clean oil. I always top the tank off with stabil. I always cover mine 100% of the time so if that's done a good cover will cover the exhaust, if not then as suggested a few moth balls in the pipes and under the hood.


Wouldn't worry about lowering the window, why invite something to come inside, just leave the rear seat down and when your ready open the door with the key and crawl in the backseat and pull the trunk quick release.


I like the concept of a moisture blocker inside, as I lay one down in the passenger floor and replace it at 3 months if needed. Remember if its not stored with heat its gong to condensate as temps rise and fall and in Michigan that can be as much as 50 degrees. While my F150 and Genesis both flat spot as they are almost the same weight, I have never experienced a flat spot of the Z, but mine is stored with a Michelin AS3 that is made for cold weather.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:44 PM   #9
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Wouldn't worry about lowering the window, why invite something to come inside, just leave the rear seat down and when your ready open the door with the key and crawl in the backseat and pull the trunk quick release.
Are you unfamiliar with how the window always drops down a small amount to allow the door to open, and if you have a dead battery you got a problem opening the door?
I wasn't talking about dropping it way down, only a small amount to allow you to open the door. Seems you left that part of the puzzle out.
I could picture myself trying to climb over the seat which won't move due to a dead battery and is stuck nearly all the way back, and shimmy into the trunk lol. Some of us are not 20 and 125lbs anymore. Not to mention some of the storage units are narrow and won't allow the door to open all the way, making it all the more fun to do that trick. A person could also back into the spot with the hood slightly popped to jumper it, just in case.
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Are you unfamiliar with how the window always drops down a small amount to allow the door to open, and if you have a dead battery you got a problem opening the door?
I wasn't talking about dropping it way down, only a small amount to allow you to open the door. Seems you left that part of the puzzle out.
I could picture myself trying to climb over the seat which won't move due to a dead battery and is stuck nearly all the way back, and shimmy into the trunk lol. Some of us are not 20 and 125lbs anymore. Not to mention some of the storage units are narrow and won't allow the door to open all the way, making it all the more fun to do that trick. A person could also back into the spot with the hood slightly popped to jumper it, just in case.

I wasn't targeting you, just sharing facts. Yes I am quite aware of the window dropping down, where you aware your key opens the door without a battery?


You are making a bigger deal about accessing the trunk release than it is, but if it concerns anyone you don't have to latch the trunk, after all if the battery is gone you don't have an alarm anyway. In short a lot of options, pick the ones that make you comfortable.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:52 PM   #11
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Wow, awesome advice on here guys and some good ideas as well! And sorry I should have mentioned I have stored my ZL1 in my garage or a buddies and everything has gone fine. I am just hesitant about the storage unit with security and lack of heat. And when it was in my garage last year its nice being able to check on it every day.

But I will read through these comments one more time and give this some thought and explore options! Thank you everyone!
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:03 PM   #12
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I’ll just comment on some of the advice above after storing my cars and boats over the years:

Everyone recommends Stabil. I was told to just fill up the tank with quality gas and skip the additives. I’ve had no problem with storage up to a year. I stopped using Stabil years ago even on my stored lawn equipment and I usually get a start on first pull. When I did use Stabil it always seemed to need to burn off before my engines ran right.

Flat spotting on newer cars supposedly doesn’t exist and I’ve never experienced it. On the initial drive it’s out of round but after a few miles it smooths out.

Been told to never store it on jack stands because it will mess up the suspension.

I take the battery out and store it at home on a trickle charger.

If I needed to get in the car I used the trunk access. Leaving the window cracked just seems like a bad idea. Even if cracked a little, it still can let bugs get in. I’ve not had a problem with mice so much as the mess that spiders can leave sometimes.

Was told that once it’s parked, don’t start it again unless I planned on driving it fo awhile. I used to start it once every few weeks but was told it was doing more harm than good.

I never do any work on my cars or boat, even an oil change, before I store it because if something was done wrong I won’t know until months later after I take it back out.

In short, I basically park it, cover it and take the battery out. Seems to work fine for me. Basically K.I.S.S.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:38 PM   #13
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In short, I basically park it, cover it and take the battery out. Seems to work fine for me.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:21 AM   #14
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Why it is https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134255


How do I correct it after a dead battery or taken out battery
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showp...&postcount=483


Don't forget to prevent windshield washer tank freezeup and bust
DIY windshield fluid with de-icer
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561782


Edit: And the radio locking up if you let the battery die or take it out
https://www.gmpartsonline.net/blog/h...-paying-a-dime


I prefer not to go through that by letting the battery die or removing it if possible.

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