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shiroji · 11-20-2016, 04:08 PM

Hey Guys, I've been lurking here on and off.

I have a 2015 Z28 and did some research but could not find an answer to the above topic.

I would like to know if the computer assist/traction can be fully turned off?

I double push on the right side and it indicates all systems and off on my dash and then I change the setting to RACE mode.

Recently I had a chance to open up the throttle on a dry skid pad and found the car to cut fuel. I did not have full control of the throttle despite following the instructions in the manual to turn off all intervention.

Can you guys share your knowledge about this?

Thank you in advance.

Stephen12ZL1 · 11-20-2016, 06:34 PM

You need to do a seven second depress of the traction control button to fully (or as much as possible) disable the systems. You could possibly remove the ABS/Stabilitrak fuses; but of course, this will effect the ABS.

HOJO · 11-20-2016, 06:47 PM

What Stephen said above. Once you hit about the seven second mark both the traction control and stability control lights should come on.

shiroji · 11-21-2016, 03:44 AM

Thanks guys.

Two quick pushes of the traction button turns on the two indicators that assist is off on my dash. I guess I'll hold the button down on the 2nd push to see if I can shut down the assist fully.

"StabiliTrak® automatically intervenes when it senses loss of lateral traction"

Sounds like this would cut my fuel and of course I'll try pulling the fuse if I have to.

If won't be for a while before I have the opportunity again to try this in a safe controlled environment so I'll have to wait

its a syn · 11-21-2016, 05:22 AM

I would not pull the fuses. JMHO, 1 press disables TC and a 7 second hold down of same button disables Stabilitrak. Removing fuses may affect airbags. I don't know this for fact, but thought I saw it in another thread.

bowtieman_racin · 11-21-2016, 08:13 AM

I always thought I was turning everything off by holding the buttons down. If you just press the traction control button 1 time it will turn the traction control completely off. Jason Chin who has a bad ass built Z schooled me on this at the LS Fest. The car fell on its face both 1/4 mile passes. He told me about this afterwards I went back to the speed stop challenge and did a john force burnout off the line.

LS7 Apex · 11-21-2016, 10:02 AM

To be clear for the OP... The 7 sec hold is one push of the button only.

D2M · 11-21-2016, 11:17 AM

Press the traction button ( center button ) just once, this will turn traction control off. Then hold the stability control button ( right button ) for 7+ seconds, this will turn all stability control off. To confirm you will have two orange lights lit on the tachometer.

bowtieman_racin · 11-21-2016, 01:11 PM

sweet so traction control once and its off. Then are you saying hold the sport + button down 7 seconds to shut stability off?

macalot · 11-21-2016, 01:29 PM

Too much mis-information here... All you have to do is push the button one time and hold it for 7 secs, both lights come on saying both are disabled in the dash.
Better have a good grip on the wheel when both are deactivated!

LS7 Apex · 11-21-2016, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macalot

Too much mis-information here... All you have to do is push the button one time and hold it for 7 secs, both lights come on saying both are disabled in the dash.
Better have a good grip on the wheel when both are deactivated!

This above, reinforced. Visual walkthrough will need to be posted as it seems every thing said is contextually misconstrued. Happens though.

LS7 Apex · 11-21-2016, 03:41 PM

Everyone writes and perceives different so internet help can be a mess sometimes. Picture added to help visualize...

Disable all: Press & HOLD button TSC/ST (3), for ~7 sec. Light indicator on dash will illuminate once successful. Press TSC (3) again, to reactivate.

- If TSC (3), is pressed once, traction control is disabled. Light on dash will indicate. With traction controlled disabled, if the TSC (3) button is pressed again, PTM modes become available, indictated by another dash light, and traction control will be appropriate for which PTM mode is being used. Use TOUR- (1) and Sport + (2), to toggle between PTM modes. *Pressing TSC (3) twice consecutively at the beginning will also get to the PTM modes. No need to wait.

As for the Tour (1) and Sport (2) Buttons on their own (not being used to select PTM), steering effort and feel changes in Tour... reduction of effort. Sport steering feels the same as a default setting when the car is initially started. I have not spent any extra time to tell if there are notable differences with vehicle behavior (throttle or TC/ST) outside of steering. Steering is probably it as I doubt any real need implement much with those two buttons.

PTM:
https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...PREP_Final.pdf

Stephen12ZL1 · 11-21-2016, 06:19 PM

Holy moly...hold the T/C button down for 7 sec. The other buttons are clearly marked Tour & Sport which only changes the steering effort in a Z/28.

URBAN LEGEND · 11-21-2016, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

Holy moly...hold the T/C button down for 7 sec. The other buttons are clearly marked Tour & Sport which only changes the steering effort in a Z/28.

And PTM modes.

11-20-2016, 04:08 PM	#1
shiroji Drives: 2015 Z28 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Fl Posts: 18	Traction assist and stabiliy management Hey Guys, I've been lurking here on and off. I have a 2015 Z28 and did some research but could not find an answer to the above topic. I would like to know if the computer assist/traction can be fully turned off? I double push on the right side and it indicates all systems and off on my dash and then I change the setting to RACE mode. Recently I had a chance to open up the throttle on a dry skid pad and found the car to cut fuel. I did not have full control of the throttle despite following the instructions in the manual to turn off all intervention. Can you guys share your knowledge about this? Thank you in advance.

11-20-2016, 06:34 PM	#2
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	You need to do a seven second depress of the traction control button to fully (or as much as possible) disable the systems. You could possibly remove the ABS/Stabilitrak fuses; but of course, this will effect the ABS. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

11-21-2016, 05:22 AM	#5
its a syn B.O.D. 02/16/10 Drives: 2010 SGM Sp. Edition 2017 RS Conver Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Albia,Iowa Posts: 3,959 View My Garage	I would not pull the fuses. JMHO, 1 press disables TC and a 7 second hold down of same button disables Stabilitrak. Removing fuses may affect airbags. I don't know this for fact, but thought I saw it in another thread. __________________

11-21-2016, 01:29 PM	#10
macalot Drives: 1969 Z/28 + 2015 Z/28 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Area, Pa Posts: 534	Too much mis-information here... All you have to do is push the button one time and hold it for 7 secs, both lights come on saying both are disabled in the dash. Better have a good grip on the wheel when both are deactivated! __________________ You know you are having fun when you are getting 3.4 mpg !!

11-21-2016, 03:41 PM	#12
LS7 Apex Z/28 Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Where the sidewalk ends Posts: 76	Everyone writes and perceives different so internet help can be a mess sometimes. Picture added to help visualize... Disable all: Press & HOLD button TSC/ST (3), for ~7 sec. Light indicator on dash will illuminate once successful. Press TSC (3) again, to reactivate. - If TSC (3), is pressed once, traction control is disabled. Light on dash will indicate. With traction controlled disabled, if the TSC (3) button is pressed again, PTM modes become available, indictated by another dash light, and traction control will be appropriate for which PTM mode is being used. Use TOUR- (1) and Sport + (2), to toggle between PTM modes. *Pressing TSC (3) twice consecutively at the beginning will also get to the PTM modes. No need to wait. As for the Tour (1) and Sport (2) Buttons on their own (not being used to select PTM), steering effort and feel changes in Tour... reduction of effort. Sport steering feels the same as a default setting when the car is initially started. I have not spent any extra time to tell if there are notable differences with vehicle behavior (throttle or TC/ST) outside of steering. Steering is probably it as I doubt any real need implement much with those two buttons. PTM: https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...PREP_Final.pdf Attached Images

11-20-2016, 06:47 PM	#3
HOJO Drives: 2014 Camaro SS/RS 1LE 1967 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 874	What Stephen said above. Once you hit about the seven second mark both the traction control and stability control lights should come on.

11-21-2016, 03:44 AM	#4
shiroji Drives: 2015 Z28 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Fl Posts: 18	Thanks guys. Two quick pushes of the traction button turns on the two indicators that assist is off on my dash. I guess I'll hold the button down on the 2nd push to see if I can shut down the assist fully. "StabiliTrak® automatically intervenes when it senses loss of lateral traction" Sounds like this would cut my fuel and of course I'll try pulling the fuse if I have to. If won't be for a while before I have the opportunity again to try this in a safe controlled environment so I'll have to wait

11-21-2016, 08:13 AM	#6
bowtieman_racin Drives: 2015 camaro z28 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: ohio Posts: 91	I always thought I was turning everything off by holding the buttons down. If you just press the traction control button 1 time it will turn the traction control completely off. Jason Chin who has a bad ass built Z schooled me on this at the LS Fest. The car fell on its face both 1/4 mile passes. He told me about this afterwards I went back to the speed stop challenge and did a john force burnout off the line.

11-21-2016, 10:02 AM	#7
LS7 Apex Z/28 Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Where the sidewalk ends Posts: 76	To be clear for the OP... The 7 sec hold is one push of the button only.

11-21-2016, 11:17 AM	#8
D2M Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: NJ Posts: 538	Press the traction button ( center button ) just once, this will turn traction control off. Then hold the stability control button ( right button ) for 7+ seconds, this will turn all stability control off. To confirm you will have two orange lights lit on the tachometer.

11-21-2016, 01:11 PM	#9
bowtieman_racin Drives: 2015 camaro z28 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: ohio Posts: 91	sweet so traction control once and its off. Then are you saying hold the sport + button down 7 seconds to shut stability off?

11-21-2016, 06:19 PM	#13
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	Holy moly...hold the T/C button down for 7 sec. The other buttons are clearly marked Tour & Sport which only changes the steering effort in a Z/28. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)