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demonspeed · 10-21-2020, 04:29 PM

MGW. Anyone who recommends a Hurst either a) drives like a sissy or b) has never tried the MGW.

Axe55 · 10-22-2020, 08:00 AM

I've had an MGW for 2 years and really like it.

hudson773 · 10-22-2020, 09:12 AM

Then MGW it is, thanks

sdynak · 10-22-2020, 12:12 PM

I wish I knew how the MGW compares to the Barton.. I am generally happy with the Barton but if the MGW is that much better I would consider. I can see the Barton still notchy at times but much improvement over stock.

Anyone have experience with both?

Spec · 10-22-2020, 06:43 PM

MGW is the consensus, and they're probably right...

But I sooo love my HURST.

Spec · 10-22-2020, 06:45 PM

Dumbest comment on this thread...

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Originally Posted by demonspeed

MGW. Anyone who recommends a Hurst either a) drives like a sissy or b) has never tried the MGW.

DMan918 · 10-22-2020, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec

Dumbest comment on this thread...

Agreed though I have heard the mgw is the best. Cant justify its enough difference from my factory hurst to get though.

CamaroDreams76 · 10-22-2020, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DMan918

Agreed though I have heard the mgw is the best. Cant justify its enough difference from my factory hurst to get though.

I test drove a Hurst equipped Camaro SS before I bought my 1LE. I can tell you, the Hurst is super notchy. The ZL1/1LE shifter is the same throw reduction (22%) but that shifter is a huge improvement over Hurst. The MGW is a fairly big improvement over the 1LE/ZL1 shifter and its another 11% throw reduction.

Best part of the MGW is the spring assist from 2-3 and then down shifting from 5-4. Super smooth shifter too

Honestly I don't blame you. If I didn't get my MGW as a trade I wouldn't have switched. Detailed a guys camaro ss in trade for the shifter. (he went from a manual obviously to a 4L80 or 4L60 whatever)

Valkyrie14 · 10-22-2020, 09:19 PM

Been following this thread. There are three MGW shifters on there sight and the descriptions seem the same. Anyone know what the difference is?

I also don’t see a weighted knob option, just the black or white option.

DMan918 · 10-23-2020, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

I test drove a Hurst equipped Camaro SS before I bought my 1LE. I can tell you, the Hurst is super notchy. The ZL1/1LE shifter is the same throw reduction (22%) but that shifter is a huge improvement over Hurst. The MGW is a fairly big improvement over the 1LE/ZL1 shifter and its another 11% throw reduction.

Best part of the MGW is the spring assist from 2-3 and then down shifting from 5-4. Super smooth shifter too

Honestly I don't blame you. If I didn't get my MGW as a trade I wouldn't have switched. Detailed a guys camaro ss in trade for the shifter. (he went from a manual obviously to a 4L80 or 4L60 whatever)

Interesting. Is the install as much of a PITA as it looks. Looks a little daunting for just a shifter.

Camaro2ss2010 · 10-23-2020, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie14

Been following this thread. There are three MGW shifters on there sight and the descriptions seem the same. Anyone know what the difference is?

I also don’t see a weighted knob option, just the black or white option.

They are just different styles depending on what you like. I went with the flat but that just my preference. As for the weighted shift knob they do not offer that option. The one I got is almost a pound. I can share the link if interested. Just FYI the thread size is a 3/8-16.

Camaro2ss2010 · 10-23-2020, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DMan918

Interesting. Is the install as much of a PITA as it looks. Looks a little daunting for just a shifter.

Not to bad. Took me about an hour. With that being said the two retainer clips on either side of the factory shifter is a pita to get out and back in. Don’t let that change your mind though.

Norm Peterson · 10-23-2020, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sdynak

I wish I knew how the MGW compares to the Barton.. I am generally happy with the Barton but if the MGW is that much better I would consider. I can see the Barton still notchy at times but much improvement over stock.

Anyone have experience with both?

No experience with a Barton, but increased notchiness is a common trade-off when you shorten up the shift throws. Though some shifters seem to reach a better compromise than others. Keep in mind also that some people can tolerate more notchiness than others. Or even prefer it.

FWIW, I've got an MGW in my GT, so that'd be my recommendation as well. Though since I personally hate notchiness, I actually fabbed up an extension piece to reduce notchiness without sacrificing the greater precision over the OEM pieces.

A weighted shift knob helps the shift lever keep moving once you've got the shift motion started (it's an inertia thing), and I guess you could say it sort of absorbs some of the notchiness as it helps your right arm power through it. I'm pretty sure that it's possible to overdo this 'weighting' thing, though.

Norm

Valkyrie14 · 10-23-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro2ss2010

They are just different styles depending on what you like. I went with the flat but that just my preference. As for the weighted shift knob they do not offer that option. The one I got is almost a pound. I can share the link if interested. Just FYI the thread size is a 3/8-16.

When you say preference is just the look? Or do they perform differently?

Yes, please share the link for the weighted knob.

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Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	Been following this thread. There are three MGW shifters on there sight and the descriptions seem the same. Anyone know what the difference is? I also don’t see a weighted knob option, just the black or white option. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

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