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Old 10-10-2018, 05:38 PM   #29
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Considering I have never owned a ford and never will there is nothing to consider.
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Old 10-10-2018, 05:53 PM   #30
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. I would do a challenger before the Stang.
This is true too.

1. Challenger
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3. Camaro
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:16 PM   #31
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Life or death, one or the other - Camaro.... then mod the crap out of it so that is practically unrecognizable lol
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:24 PM   #32
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Not a 2019 for either. A Corvette, M5, or maybe a 911.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:44 PM   #33
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We were just talking about that on Sunday at our car meet, a guy with a really original 70 Mustang said if he was buying new it would be a Camaro, his reason was everyone has a Mustang
lol, one of the gals I work with doesn't like Mustangs, she said they are like assholes, everyone has one!! But that was ok, I had a Mustang at the time and it didn't bother me. The new ones look pretty nice.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:30 PM   #34
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Nice Ride - My Chevrolet dealer has informed me of the new Camaro IROC that's coming out next year - Said it will blow the doors off my ZL-1
There is no IROC coming out
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:17 PM   #35
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Mustangs are like a holes, and frankly you want to pay for the repairs or the modding of one go right ahead and join the disappointed. Sorry GM has gone smaller with crowding the engine bay to make it more like the Mustang and the Challenger, try fitting paper between their engines and the frame rails..... Reliability over the years has been Camaro #1, Mustang #2 Dodge #3 or worse...I know I have been on true delta and its changed and now not even really going any more but over the years...….


IT SHOWED THE WISE CHOICE. My Camaros zero repairs over the years; one recall for stupid key on one, one for the vert top that never had a problem on the 1st gen 5 SS. Match that with the Stang and the Dodges...….. or their my stink etc info tainment…...


SURE Camaros have gone stupid futuristic way down from retro even worse than the Mustang and way worse than the Challenger, but hey its about change and it will again. If you really want change do a spendy Tesla for Musk $$$$ and beat a Demon.... Frankly I have owned Fords back in the day and its still about their not using better ideas; just as GM can do a lot also, basing things on looks …...that's about as stupid as voting that way. Was not called found on road side dead for nothing.

See over time how many last to become classic 5.0's compared to 6.2 Camaros, or 6.4 Challengers.... The appearances will matter and frankly mustang lost lots of its appeal and now Camaro got stupider and more $$$ to be like them just to change.... And Dodge has just got stupid Power to appeal with Machismo like back in the day with its elephant motors... Which motors going into things for retro rods?????? why the LS3 speaks volumes for a old hot rodder ….. sure you could drop a fortune and upgrade a old ford with a heavy huge 5.0 motor and go coyote......does not happen so much because there is better out there. And still the ZL1 ……..kicks arse, the SS got a stupid front, and head to head dollar for dollar I would rather have a zl1 than a hellcat any day. And I do watch the prices over time and plot out my next car purchase and frankly the ZL1 prices are coming down, only a matter of time for me to own most likely a 17 low mile for another daily to mod.....

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=CAM

They are our future so chill....aftermarket will deal with Stupid ………. and the price will be more right and appearance will change. Longevity does matter, as does reliability and buildability..... And since the day ….just from this old timer; Dodges were always pigs trying to fly and still are, fords always tried to shove everything into the engine bay and damn the room for it and damn the this and that when others used better....try putting headers on a old Mustang...you cant with out a grinder and a cut off wheel..and they got IRS because of the Camaro.....

Or take the crap ignition of a Granada and its the same in a Stang….. Not always a better Idea, GM screwed up also just not as bad and let alone never needed bailed out as much as CHRYSLER....who sold us out repeatedly, GM just had to survive the onslaught of Govt B.S. and sold off completely viable components like Saturn and Pontiac as it was forced by Idiots that someday should be pointed to as just that...…….. And the reason millennials are such a train wreck; their generation did grow up with the housing market bust caused by free market socialism; owning a home is not a right and not everyone should get a loan...and capitalism works ,just look at it now its balancing.....more worthless social media stocks dropping value as they are B.S. and interest being able to earn money on savings and bonds coming around and soon the fed should stop raising rates hopefully to stop screwing the market for retirements...….then down the road some turd will take credit for the economy when they are elected and just ride the Trump supply side economic windfall just as Clinton rode on Reagan's...……..

Be smart, know as much as you can, and learn...because being wise there is no other choice for me; I can never go back to being blissfully ignorant like in youth....OR as in those whose emotions are used to steer them like cattle to the slaughter house. Take it from a old Infantry disable vet who is a gov't employee and is conservative and a union member...a real oxy moron, a man who can see clearly from a distance those wastes of flesh who having NOT served!!!!!; profoundly claim to know what Morally is right!, and Mentally/intellectually is right in America while attempting to dilute America to garner power and with the help of a media that's so corrupt and BIAS now will on revolt ..they do not realize in their stupidity though.....
They have brought us to hate them intensely as they attempt to destroy us and we cannot take it forever, look at Obama care shoved down our throats now people are scared to change from its disaster of unaffordability, heck in the old days we just would have called them commies and thrown away the key...… And you cant be black and think conservatively. Ever see Liberal accountants? they would be the ones out of work with ruined businesses in their wake.

We are a Republic, we are mostly a red map, and surrounding the Blue bubbles would be easy and a target rich environment with no ability to reinforce or get Food..... as in; easy Battle to win for those who are not so easily swayed by their lies...…… Control the information and you have power, watch I bet in the next few years; Google, Facebook, etc all go down being prejudiced and have to reorganize or DIE as they treat conservatives like the plague..and we fought for them to have the right to live. Use some common sense and look around...don't just stare at your phone its stupid like only staying in doors playing games and listening to those inflated EGOs of Hollywood bozos. A real hero why that's Pat Tillman...not Taylor Swift..... or worse.. Michael Moore, Johnny Depp , etc etc etc

There is completely no parallel between the treatment of our current president and our last. That's damn dangerous, and I know who I back, and its not the one who ruined health care and doubled our national debt with out a chance to vote on it. Thus where we are. Trying to fix stupid with a blunt object to beat out those who fail to learn enough to know when they are a looser.

And still waiting for another FORD to break down, one that whines like a child and plays so innocent over three decades later and cant be asked delicate questions but is supposed to be believed because they have to be credible even to come forward supposedly....yes a Liberal college psychology activist who with her Liberal activist Lawyers just coincidentally comes out 36 years later to accuse a Supreme court nominee ...only after she tested her ability to lie on a lie detector test;( after training a friend how to lie on one), and supposedly had her name leaked after wanting to remain anonymous...its all so preposterous its absurd beyond belief and only the ignorant eat it up...… And the FORD....its meant to sound nasty like a Mustang to make it sound powerful even if it is not so much...its the selling point...….and this FORD lady her friends don't believe her as they say she does not talk that way; they do not know her talking like a baby like that...… FIND that in the NEWS...…


Be wise my friends, and research. The most flatulent man in the world..... My ramble for the day, Murr…….. and IMO:


NEITHER …. BUY THE CAMARO I SHOWED YOU THE AD FOR...…….DUH ;;;;;;;;;; SEVEN TO ELEVEN UNDER THE FAIR MARKET RANGE KBB......8K ON USED ZL1 FOR MILES AND ITS CHEAP AS A NEW SS...…….depreciated and under appreciated...… and ready for a new owner to swoop in and love like crazy.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:23 PM   #36
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If those are the only two choices, easy answer for me, Camaro.
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:54 AM   #37
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i think we have a new record for a dissertaton on which brand to buy. Possibly a case of mixing alcohol and energy drink.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:48 AM   #38
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Actually its southern comfort and coke...LOL
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:20 AM   #39
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Easy, Camaro. Because I have owned 8 since since 17 yrs old.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:14 AM   #40
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They have the 2018hellian ..or hell horse mustang here in houston with turbo or supercharger off the dealer floor for the same price as new camaro...
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:04 AM   #41
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I love my Camaro, but I am not nearsighted, to not admire another manufacture's sports machines. To truly answer this question, I will have to wait and see in person the 19 Camaro and Mustang to make the right choice for me.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:53 AM   #42
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