Local track mashup results VS cammed 1LE, M4, Hellcat, 15' 5.0, boltons C7,boltons SS

[WHAMMO]

So I went to my local track and it was a test and tune day. There was many plp there and many interesting cars running.
My fist time out figuring out my new setup. I was pretty bummed out at 1st, but then it got better. My car is a cammed 1LE with a 231/236 TSP cam. Full weight, camping chairs in the trunk, 3/4 gas tank and random stuff in the car for a day out.

1st run hitting cutoff in 2nd
-12.8@113

2nd run trying to pass the 1/4 in 3rd gear, hitting the cutoff;
-12.6@113 (beat my best 12.76@113mph when boltons!)

3rd run with my worst launch;
-12.95@118mph

All 0-60ft were 2.2 or 2.3. Horrible. On Michelin PSS AS/3 tires no burnout.
I was about to set fire to the car with my 113mph trap. I wasnt there to break any time record, but rather to see the potential of the car and the trap speed. Shifting at 6600 was the best way to do it. Anything over that I'm wasting my time. It goes with how the cam is intended to be run.

OTHER CARS
-Local boltons full weight SS stock tires(inspected the car) with 2 heavy passengers was running 12.9-13.1@113-114(right besides me). I was impressed with all the weight!!

-Stock 15' 5.0 running from 13.5-13.6@106mph all day(many passes and you could see the car bouncing from the hard shifts). 100% stock.

-4th gen fbody boltons auto with nitrous, I think 12.0@113mph

-Exhaust/other mods unknown 15' 5.0 running 13.0@108-109mph, maybe an auto.

-Full exhaust C7, which was sounding incredibly great and loud!! 12.0-12.5@117mph all day.

-Stock Hellcat, dont know if man or auto; 12.4-12.5@120-122mph. Driver was doing a great job not spinning too much

-Tuned M4; 11.7-11.9@118-119mph all day. They ARE VERY impressive tuned only!!! Crazy car for sure!

-Stock sounding 14' 5.0 GT/CS vert 13.1-13.3@111mph. Quick!

-Supercharged/slick manual 13' 5.0 11.6@120mph all day.

-400hp WRX 12.0-12.2@112mph. Dumping the clutch from cutoff LOLL

-Stockish LS2 C6 man; 12.9@112mph driver mod

-Stock to the filter C5 vert auto 13.6@104mph

-Golf R 13.3@107mph!!

-Lancer EVO exhaust/unknown mods 13.8@106mph (right besides me )

-That junkyard turbo gutted Civic on steel rims running 13.8-13.9@118-123mph LOL

All the others were running way under 100mph; G35, Civics, modded/slicks SRT4, etc
In conclusion, I wasnt impressed with the new 5.0 and the older ones are definitly faster for sure. They always ran great here, like 12.9-13.0@110-111mph stock) but not the new ones.

[WHAMMO]

Alert; this has been filmed with a potato

[Batchler.15SS]

Good Job, its nice to see real world times from so many different cars at the same track. Get you some better tires and rid of some of that weight and im sure your times will look a whole lot better.

[Mkn95u0]

nice runs, do you know what you put to the wheels?

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

-Stock Hellcat, dont know if man or auto; 12.4-12.5@120-122mph. Driver was doing a great job not spinning too much

running 12.4-12.5 at 122mph is lots of spinning by the looks of it. they're definitely capable cars though, i raced one the other weekend, same mph, but 11.4 was his best of the day. he was all over the place in times though, but 11.9's were more common. he was on a drag radial though, so i'm betting that's why he shaved that full second off in compared to this stock hellcat. (charger or challenger btw?)

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

In conclusion, I wasnt impressed with the new 5.0 and the older ones are definitly faster for sure. They always ran great here, like 12.9-13.0@110-111mph stock) but not the new ones.

This was my analysis as well, everyone kept calling them 11 second cars with bolt ons and tune, but they're probably rare instances, i have yet to come across one at the drag strip and see one for myself. mid-high 12's to 13's are very, very common for the mustangs though (stock, tuned, bolt on's, anything basically with a street tire and a mustang badge it seems)

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

This was my analysis as well, everyone kept calling them 11 second cars with bolt ons and tune, but they're probably rare instances, i have yet to come across one at the drag strip and see one for myself. mid-high 12's to 13's are very, very common for the mustangs though (stock, tuned, bolt on's, anything basically with a street tire and a mustang badge it seems)

Here are the two slips from the only two runs I got in, last Friday in my bolt-on 15 Mustang. The Tempature was 68 degree and the DA was 440+ on the first run! I don't know where you are racing? Where a bolt on Mustang is running 13s. But the DA must be terrible!

[rontammy0]

There seems to be 2 different comparisons going on here. Gossip knows his stuff but im thinking with so many different variables going on here we cannot come to a common conclusion as to what runs what. My last time ay the track i ran 12.8. A new scat pack was running 13.4. Imo until a car has at least DR on it you cant get a good idea of performance. My car was breaking loose around the 100ft mark so i was pedaling it. I just dont get a chance to get to the track as much as I would like to see different cars run. Im thinking im pretty close to the 12.6 I need so gossip will talk to me.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

There seems to be 2 different comparisons going on here. Gossip knows his stuff but im thinking with so many different variables going on here we cannot come to a common conclusion as to what runs what. My last time ay the track i ran 12.8. A new scat pack was running 13.4. Imo until a car has at least DR on it you cant get a good idea of performance. My car was breaking loose around the 100ft mark so i was pedaling it. I just dont get a chance to get to the track as much as I would like to see different cars run. Im thinking im pretty close to the 12.6 I need so gossip will talk to me.

Your probably already faster than 12.6 if you were racing here in Jersey. We're lucky with the serious negative DA down here.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Your probably already faster than 12.6 if you were racing here in Jersey. We're lucky with the serious negative DA down here.

Thats not really that far from me lol. It would have been nice to get your et and 60ft but the track that night I was there had no 60ft and was hit and miss on getting you a time slip. ...alot of runs I had no idea what I ran. You better hope your co worker doesn't get a 2016 Camaro ss and lets you take it for a ride.....you may be trading in again.

[2010reddevil]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Your probably already faster than 12.6 if you were racing here in Jersey. We're lucky with the serious negative DA down here.

I'm wondering if you've upgraded those spindly ass half shafts back there and if not, how much longer do you think they are gonna hold out? I remember the build AM did of the boosted 3V vs bolt-on Coyote and they lost out to the 3V due to snapping an axle shaft. I also remember then testing the S550 and just had a few bolt-ons when they popped the half shafts on their test car.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

I'm wondering if you've upgraded those spindly ass half shafts back there and if not, how much longer do you think they are gonna hold out? I remember the build AM did of the boosted 3V vs bolt-on Coyote and they lost out to the 3V due to snapping an axle shaft. I also remember then testing the S550 and just had a few bolt-ons when they popped the half shafts on their test car.

The 15-16 mustangs are having issues with that no doubt. But the half shaft issue is almost entirely happening to the M6 Mustangs. I drive an A6 and the Autos don't suffer from the broken axles for what ever reason. Rontammy, I've driven both manual & auto 16 Camaros. Very impressive stock. But I mod everything and there seams to be more left on the tables with the Mustangs compared to the 16 Camaros. The direct injection is currently holding them back. The Stock battle goes to the Camaro easily. The bolt-on battle is going to be where all the fun happens. And the Mustang will win the boosted battles. Besides, I loved the exterior styling of my 2011 SS. Best looking Camaro since the reintroduction IMO. I just wasn't fond of being inside the car. The 16 is a step back in the exterior looks department by comparison.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

The 15-16 mustangs are having issues with that no doubt. But the half shaft issue is almost entirely happening to the M6 Mustangs. I drive an A6 and the Autos don't suffer from the broken axles for what ever reason. Rontammy, I've driven both manual & auto 16 Camaros. Very impressive stock. But I mod everything and there seams to be more left on the tables with the Mustangs compared to the 16 Camaros. The direct injection is currently holding them back. The Stock battle goes to the Camaro easily. The bolt-on battle is going to be where all the fun happens. And the Mustang will win the boosted battles. Besides, I loved the exterior styling of my 2011 SS. Best looking Camaro since the reintroduction IMO. I just wasn't fond of being inside the car. The 16 is a step back in the exterior looks department by comparison.

Ive only seen 1 16 camaro so far...havnt sat in one yet. So really i dont have much of an opinion. I was hoping to see a 16 at the track last time but no luck.

[Mkn95u0]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Here are the two slips from the only two runs I got in, last Friday in my bolt-on 15 Mustang. The Tempature was 68 degree and the DA was 440+ on the first run! I don't know where you are racing? Where a bolt on Mustang is running 13s. But the DA must be terrible!

nice times. in california, i'd probably be in very low 11's with that DA lol. our DA, on one of my best days (coolest days i should say) is 2000+. hot days 2800+, summer days 3000 even.

my best run on my prior set up was a 2371 DA and that was like 74* outside. my new set up was 76*-82* out, 2678 DA (noted in my signature).

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

nice times. in california, i'd probably be in very low 11's with that DA lol. our DA, on one of my best days (coolest days i should say) is 2000+. hot days 2800+, summer days 3000 even.

my best run on my prior set up was a 2371 DA and that was like 74* outside. my new set up was 76*-82* out, 2678 DA (noted in my signature).

Yep. Probably 11 flat to 11.15 with a trap speed of about 124 to 125.

[WHAMMO]

Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

nice runs, do you know what you put to the wheels?



running 12.4-12.5 at 122mph is lots of spinning by the looks of it. they're definitely capable cars though, i raced one the other weekend, same mph, but 11.4 was his best of the day. he was all over the place in times though, but 11.9's were more common. he was on a drag radial though, so i'm betting that's why he shaved that full second off in compared to this stock hellcat. (charger or challenger btw?)

##No dyno numbers. Local mustang dyno is ruff; should be 420rwhp. ##


This was my analysis as well, everyone kept calling them 11 second cars with bolt ons and tune, but they're probably rare instances, i have yet to come across one at the drag strip and see one for myself. mid-high 12's to 13's are very, very common for the mustangs though (stock, tuned, bolt on's, anything basically with a street tire and a mustang badge it seems)

Its really more 13.1-13.5 here, depends on the Stang options I guess. Best ones are 13.0 cars.

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Here are the two slips from the only two runs I got in, last Friday in my bolt-on 15 Mustang. The Tempature was 68 degree and the DA was 440+ on the first run! I don't know where you are racing? Where a bolt on Mustang is running 13s. But the DA must be terrible!

This is a very slow track. Like its a bit of a hill an DA sucks. No interwebz track time dream is gonna happen here ! !