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Unreal · 07-02-2014, 09:58 AM

It will be right in line, maybe $2-3k more than the zl1/gt500.

Rumor is it went easy 10s with manual car, and auto should be well into the 10s.

MEDISIN · 07-02-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

You really dont't know what you're taking about. They aren't any worse quality wise than chevy or ford.

Dodge is consistently bottom of the barrel year, after year, after year.

McRat · 07-02-2014, 10:11 AM

No such thing as "easy 10's" for us mortals, unless you count street racing.

We have to put a rollbar in our cars for 11.49 and quicker.

And if you're going to put a rollbar in, you might as well tweak the snot out of it anyhow.

Hopefully they don't do a dick move and put bigger than 18" rims on the rear. It sucks to buy new rims just to get traction at the strip.

I will guess the price at $59,995.

Unreal · 07-02-2014, 10:20 AM

I know a lot of local tracks, even the strict one here are allowing 2008+ factory power adder cars to run to 10.0 without a bar, just jacket/helmet.

jon6.0 · 07-02-2014, 11:11 AM

Meh. It's easy peasy to make mid 700's rwhp on a ZL1, so who cares?

CanadianZL1#992 · 07-02-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I know a lot of local tracks, even the strict one here are allowing 2008+ factory power adder cars to run to 10.0 without a bar, just jacket/helmet.

Jacket helmet and driveshaft loop at our track. No problem now

jon6.0 · 07-02-2014, 11:19 AM

Was talking to my buddy last night about his 13 GT500. He said he was faster than me. Of course it is since mine is still stock. Not going to be the same story if I spend the money I saved MSRP vs MSRP on my ZL1. Then it would be a different story.

hognutz · 07-02-2014, 11:58 AM

3 pieces missing from this to me are

1. curb weight should be like ~4400lbs (for the record that is heavy)
2. Price ?????? 60-65k sweet deal 70-75k and I am at who cares in some was too much money.
3. with the wieght increase will it trun at all.

For the record though I think this is awesome. people on the internet have turned it to bickering tard hater's IMO.

707hp is just awesome IMO it drives ford and chevy to try to awnswer with something. I like the new HP wars. weather or not I would own one??? see items 1-3.

McRat · 07-02-2014, 12:10 PM

The 2014 Challenger R/T (V8/Auto) is 4082lb.

If any attempt at weight reduction is made at all to the Hellcat, it should not go over 4200 in the worst case. It will only hit 4400lb if they don't care about weight reduction.

RLHMARINES · 07-02-2014, 12:33 PM

It's interesting to see the hellcat makes 700 hp with a proposed 2.4 liter blower as compared with the new Z06 making 650 hp with a 1.7 liter blower.

Alain · 07-02-2014, 12:52 PM

Well, I was strongly considering selling my 2010 SS (or finish paying it off since I only owe ~$8000 on it) and getting a zl1 or a stingray.

I have to tell you that now I'm strongly leaning towards this new beast. 707 hp straight from the dealership is wild!! I know the zl1 has a better suspension and it's lighter but in a straight line (which is probably ill ever do at a track, if I ever go to one) the zl1 is gonna get beat by the cat.

That hellcat is gonna be bad ass and who knows maybe dodge will wize up and get a better suspension and loose some weight with next year's model.

Either way, I've gone from thinking i missed the boat and was stuck with my 2010 to now being in a great position to make a choice. The next car I buy (zl1, stingray or hellcat) is gonna be the car I pass down to my kids.

GM better strap on its boots and come up with something good for the next remake of the zl1, if they even choose to continue it.

Taser Deployed · 07-02-2014, 01:08 PM

If this car comes in around 60K they won't be able to keep them on the lots.

jon6.0 · 07-02-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Taser Deployed

If this car comes in around 60K they won't be able to keep them on the lots.

I expect to see a bunch of dealers charging "market adjustment" of $10k-$15k.

Sven59 · 07-02-2014, 02:25 PM

Steering wheel is an option!

07-02-2014, 09:58 AM	#85
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	It will be right in line, maybe $2-3k more than the zl1/gt500. Rumor is it went easy 10s with manual car, and auto should be well into the 10s. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-02-2014, 10:11 AM	#87
McRat Drives: 2010 ZR1 "Satan" Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Norco, CA Posts: 1,183	No such thing as "easy 10's" for us mortals, unless you count street racing. We have to put a rollbar in our cars for 11.49 and quicker. And if you're going to put a rollbar in, you might as well tweak the snot out of it anyhow. Hopefully they don't do a dick move and put bigger than 18" rims on the rear. It sucks to buy new rims just to get traction at the strip. I will guess the price at $59,995. __________________ 2002 Z06 "Blue Meanie" 11.36 ET 2003 Z06 in progress 2009 CTS-V "Spooky" 12.36 ET, bone stock at 1600 mi. Rainy day in Sacramento. Sadness. 2010 ZR1 "Satan" no times yet. 2013 Volt SCCA Solo2 #771 HS3. And a bunch of Duramaxes.

07-02-2014, 10:20 AM	#88
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	I know a lot of local tracks, even the strict one here are allowing 2008+ factory power adder cars to run to 10.0 without a bar, just jacket/helmet. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-02-2014, 11:11 AM	#89
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	Meh. It's easy peasy to make mid 700's rwhp on a ZL1, so who cares? __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-02-2014, 11:19 AM	#91
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	Was talking to my buddy last night about his 13 GT500. He said he was faster than me. Of course it is since mine is still stock. Not going to be the same story if I spend the money I saved MSRP vs MSRP on my ZL1. Then it would be a different story. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-02-2014, 11:58 AM	#92
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	3 pieces missing from this to me are 1. curb weight should be like ~4400lbs (for the record that is heavy) 2. Price ?????? 60-65k sweet deal 70-75k and I am at who cares in some was too much money. 3. with the wieght increase will it trun at all. For the record though I think this is awesome. people on the internet have turned it to bickering tard hater's IMO. 707hp is just awesome IMO it drives ford and chevy to try to awnswer with something. I like the new HP wars. weather or not I would own one??? see items 1-3. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

07-02-2014, 12:10 PM	#93
McRat Drives: 2010 ZR1 "Satan" Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Norco, CA Posts: 1,183	The 2014 Challenger R/T (V8/Auto) is 4082lb. If any attempt at weight reduction is made at all to the Hellcat, it should not go over 4200 in the worst case. It will only hit 4400lb if they don't care about weight reduction. __________________ 2002 Z06 "Blue Meanie" 11.36 ET 2003 Z06 in progress 2009 CTS-V "Spooky" 12.36 ET, bone stock at 1600 mi. Rainy day in Sacramento. Sadness. 2010 ZR1 "Satan" no times yet. 2013 Volt SCCA Solo2 #771 HS3. And a bunch of Duramaxes.

07-02-2014, 12:33 PM	#94
RLHMARINES 1st Civ. Div. Drives: Camaroless for now...RIP "Big SexZ" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,726	It's interesting to see the hellcat makes 700 hp with a proposed 2.4 liter blower as compared with the new Z06 making 650 hp with a 1.7 liter blower. __________________ Swift....Silent....Deadly

07-02-2014, 12:52 PM	#95
Alain Drives: 2016 Challenger Hellcat, 2018 ZL1LE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,003	Well, I was strongly considering selling my 2010 SS (or finish paying it off since I only owe ~$8000 on it) and getting a zl1 or a stingray. I have to tell you that now I'm strongly leaning towards this new beast. 707 hp straight from the dealership is wild!! I know the zl1 has a better suspension and it's lighter but in a straight line (which is probably ill ever do at a track, if I ever go to one) the zl1 is gonna get beat by the cat. That hellcat is gonna be bad ass and who knows maybe dodge will wize up and get a better suspension and loose some weight with next year's model. Either way, I've gone from thinking i missed the boat and was stuck with my 2010 to now being in a great position to make a choice. The next car I buy (zl1, stingray or hellcat) is gonna be the car I pass down to my kids. GM better strap on its boots and come up with something good for the next remake of the zl1, if they even choose to continue it.

07-02-2014, 01:08 PM	#96
Taser Deployed Drives: 2012 Blk ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 938	If this car comes in around 60K they won't be able to keep them on the lots.

07-02-2014, 02:25 PM	#98
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,386	Steering wheel is an option! __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"