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Speed 1 · 09-27-2010, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

GM should engineer a solid axle option which would solve this issue completely.

Solid Axle = for those planning to race it.
IRS = for those who just use it to do everything except race it.

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Russell James · 09-27-2010, 10:21 AM

Slicks would be easier on the drivetrain parts. Wheel hop from street tires skyrockets the loads on things like axles and ring and pinion. Something rated for 1000 hp, might actually see loads way above that if a car dead hooked and wheel hopped on basketball like street tires.

I've seen cars run huge power through slicks without a problem. Then one bad launch on street tires and parts are flying.

Andro · 09-27-2010, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

GM should engineer a solid axle option which would solve this issue completely.

Solid Axle = for those planning to race it.
IRS = for those who just use it to do everything except race it.

Although with that much HP, you likely would break any kind of rear axle or differential eventually.

Yeah never going to happen were talking about money people

Team STILLEN · 09-27-2010, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell James

Something rated for 1000 hp, might actually see loads way above that if a car dead hooked and wheel hopped on basketball like street tires.I've seen cars run huge power through slicks without a problem. Then one bad launch on street tires and parts are flying.

Wheel hop can kill all kinds of parts. Its just like hitting them with a sledgehammer.

It sucks they broke, but I am sure you know with a 6 second car, if you try hard enough, you can break anything.

Time for some failure analysis.

ravensjeff · 09-27-2010, 12:39 PM

(Street tires) + (700+HP) + (only 1000HP rated axles) = asking for trouble. You fail 2 out of 3.

h2oplay · 09-27-2010, 01:13 PM

LOL.... I laugh at "car guys" who think doing burnouts with IRS is a good thing...... throw more $, forget about sense.......

fastfaster · 09-27-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell James

Slicks would be easier on the drivetrain parts. Wheel hop from street tires skyrockets the loads on things like axles and ring and pinion. Something rated for 1000 hp, might actually see loads way above that if a car dead hooked and wheel hopped on basketball like street tires.

I've seen cars run huge power through slicks without a problem. Then one bad launch on street tires and parts are flying.

there was no wheel hop or tire shake, so talk of wheel hop is irrelevant in my case.

fastfaster · 09-27-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team STILLEN

Wheel hop can kill all kinds of parts. Its just like hitting them with a sledgehammer.

It sucks they broke, but I am sure you know with a 6 second car, if you try hard enough, you can break anything.

Time for some failure analysis.

there was no wheel hop or tire shake, so talk of wheel hop is irrelevant in my case.

h2oplay · 09-27-2010, 02:44 PM

Do they offer shaft kits with less (larger) splines?

That seems to be the failure

2010 SSRS · 09-27-2010, 02:48 PM

what was your best time at the track?

Russell James · 09-27-2010, 02:56 PM

732 RWHP, stick shift, IRS, street tires, 4500 rpm launch.... and it has never wheel hopped?

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

I've seen some tracks prepped where they VHT the crap out of it and people are breaking driveshafts and axles left and right. And those can be the best parts on the market. There are so many variables to the actual shock load that hits drivetrain parts, I just don't think it's cut and dry that 1000 hp axles will always handle 1000 hp. I'd bet I could break them with stock hp.

fastfaster · 09-27-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell James

732 RWHP, stick shift, IRS, street tires, 4500 rpm launch.... and it has never wheel hopped?

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

I've seen some tracks prepped where they VHT the crap out of it and people are breaking driveshafts and axles left and right. And those can be the best parts on the market. There are so many variables to the actual shock load that hits drivetrain parts, I just don't think it's cut and dry that 1000 hp axles will always handle 1000 hp. I'd bet I could break them with stock hp.

your disbelief that my car had no wheel hop has me puzzled. both of my cars (2010 camaro and 6 second car) are carefully setup properly.
perhaps your hooptie has wheel hop?

blackonblacksls · 09-27-2010, 07:33 PM

I know when you are talking about the driveshaft shop in the irs mustang stuff, this is pretty common place..

Google dss cobra and im sure you would find 10000 threads similar to this one.

Xtreme Innovations & Fab · 09-27-2010, 08:16 PM

Not to be a smart ass , but it will only be a matter of time when people start getting sick of spending big money on these independent parts that are going to kept breaking. If you stick with independent suspension, the only solution is that people spend about $7500.00 in parts, bunch of money in labor and put automatics in which is another $6000 to $7000 . Sorry guys but this is the obvious.

09-27-2010, 12:39 PM	#19
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09-27-2010, 02:48 PM	#24
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