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[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Chrysler isn't telling the customers to F off, they're telling the government to F off

Well at least they've done something right

[strych9]

It's almost like saying that an automaker has to retrofit an airbag system into a vehicle that didn't have it because the technology wasn't there at the time the vehicle was built.

It's all BS. I worked for a Ford dealer during the Firestone tire recall debacle. There wasn't a damn thing wrong with those tires. They failed only because the owner failed to keep the tire pressures correct.

I appreciate that the government is "apparently" looking out for us, but it needs to be done within reason.

[90503]

This fact-finding is from the same agency that set up the bogus Chevy truck gas tank explosion videos...
...All fires but one on the Jeeps were from hi-speed impacts that caused more damage than can be stopped by any design....

...This agency should be trying to get careless drivers off the road instead of blaming the car for stupidity...

[05stram]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

That's why I will never own a Chrysler vehicle...

Why because they have balls? The government has not right to require a new standard on a vehicle manufactured a decade ago. What if they tell you in the morning your car had better get 35 MPG City or you have to turn it into them. What are you going to do?

[05stram]

Originally Posted by 90503

This fact-finding is from the same agency that set up the bogus Chevy truck gas tank explosion videos...
...All fires but one on the Jeeps were from hi-speed impacts that caused more damage than can be stopped by any design....

...This agency should be trying to get careless drivers off the road instead of blaming the car for stupidity...

exactly

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by 05stram

Why because they have balls? The government has not right to require a new standard on a vehicle manufactured a decade ago. What if they tell you in the morning your car had better get 35 MPG City or you have to turn it into them. What are you going to do?

No, because their cars are shit. I would buy a Ford any day before buying their garbage. And no, I'm not on the governments side as well; I'm glad Chrysler isn't listening to them, but I just wish they would do something for owners with their garbage products.

[Drew10]

Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

I'd side with Chrysler on this. 2.7 million vehicles and all that was found was that in 10 rear-end crashes a fire broke out and caused a fatality. We don't know the circumstances of those crashes, but based on the low number of fires compared to the number of vehicles on the road, it sounds pretty safe.

Edit - Just want to add this statement here seems like slander: "To be blunt, Chrysler is content with letting its customers burn to death," Ditlow said.

This Ditlow guy should be sued. There's nothing there to indicate that the cars in question are dangerous, or that Chrysler is acting irresponsibly.

Well said. If Chrysler built the vehicle to the standards set forth at the time, I don't see the problem. Like you said, Chrysler should sue the tiny bag off of that Ditlow guy.

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Chrysler isn't telling the customers to F off, they're telling the government to F off

[45thAnniversary2SS]

Originally Posted by derklug

If the problem is not a defect in design or construction, just what the BLANK does the government expect them to do? While you can design a vehicle to last for ages and survive any rear end crash, the end result would be an M-1 Abrams. Not something I want distracted soccer moms tooling around in.

Isn't that what they were claiming? That the gas tank being so far back was presenting a safety issue (being blown up lol), therefore a defective design..

Quote from article:

"
At the crux of the dispute is an alleged issue with the fuel tanks on older Jeep Grand Cherokees and Jeep Liberty SUVs. Safety watchdogs say Jeeps have been bursting into flames after rear-end crashes due to poor design; the tanks are behind the rear axle, leaving them more exposed. Since 1993, nearly 500 people have died in Jeep fires after rear crashes, according to the Center for Auto Safety.
"

A recall of this size however would surely cripple Chrysler. Tough call..

[mikeyg36]

I also forgot to mention the safety of other drivers on the road. Someone rear ends the guy in the jeep, the gas tank explodes, and the other driver is killed from an explosion or is trapped in the car due to a fire.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

No, because their cars are shit. I would buy a Ford any day before buying their garbage. And no, I'm not on the governments side as well; I'm glad Chrysler isn't listening to them, but I just wish they would do something for owners with their garbage products.

Funny, when my brothers Grand Cherokee was rearended by some idiot in a Corolla it didn't burst into flames........ And i am sure you have owned so many Chrysler cars to say they are crap? I have owned all of the big 3 sire and more than 1 example of each and can tell you my Chrysler/Jeeps/Dodges and have been the LEAST shitty of them all,

[Stew]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

I also forgot to mention the safety of other drivers on the road. Someone rear ends the guy in the jeep, the gas tank explodes, and the other driver is killed from an explosion or is trapped in the car due to a fire.

That's reaching....... Also, don't know where they are getting 500, per the letter the NHTSA sent Chrysler the number is 51, .0000188% of the 2.7 million vehicles. I am sure thousands of those have been involved in rear end collisions that did not result in fire.....

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by Stew

Funny, when my brothers Grand Cherokee was rearended by some idiot in a Corolla it didn't burst into flames........ And i am sure you have owned so many Chrysler cars to say they are crap? I have owned all of the big 3 sire and more than 1 example of each and can tell you my Chrysler/Jeeps/Dodges and have been the LEAST shitty of them all,

Considering my brother went through 3 new grand Cherokees, all of them with engine problems, and an aunt who had to deal with the dreaded oil sludge problem in the 2.7 V6, I think I can call their cars crap.

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by Stew

That's reaching....... Also, don't know where they are getting 500, per the letter the NHTSA sent Chrysler the number is 51, .0000188% of the 2.7 million vehicles. I am sure thousands of those have been involved in rear end collisions that did not result in fire.....

It may be reaching, but it's very possible. Look at a picture of the gas tank location on those SUVs...

[SRT8Tech]

So, because the gas tank is behind the rear axle is a design flaw? Uhhhhoh, better recall all the cars with tanks behind the rear axle that have been built since the model-T.