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Js2fst · 03-12-2015, 07:16 PM

Go f1-r a guy just did 1050 and has room to go I have a 408 almost done it is similar with mast ls3 heads.

1985airborne · 03-12-2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

Crank that bioch up. You will have to upgrade to a return style fuel delivery though to be safe.

LMFAO!!!

Col. Brain · 03-12-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by realcanuk

Seriously....... way too much internet in this statement.
1000 RWHP on bone stock. I would have to say if you pushed that like it was meant to be pushed, it would not last long.

Or the fact that i did it

But thanks for reminding why i dont post much here

injector · 03-13-2015, 04:50 AM

Thanks guys. It is good to hear first hand experience. I will try to get the car up and running and finish the break in period. Then gona add the squash system+pump boost to 14-15 and tune.

1KillerSS · 03-13-2015, 05:24 AM

You can live in the 750 to 850whp area on stock bottom end, like Bo said, crank it up, as long as you have the fuel. I am at 15lbs of boost, the PSI is not so much the issue, its more about how much power and cylinder pressure.

realcanuk · 03-13-2015, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Col. Brain

Or the fact that i did it

But thanks for reminding why i dont post much here

That's amazing. I got hit by a fast moving car once and I am still alive. Doesn't mean I suggest others to do it.

Like I said, if you drive it hard, 1000 rwhp on a stock engine might last a day, or a month, but will not last long.

Good luck with yours.

1KillerSS · 03-13-2015, 07:51 AM

J-Rod6410 has been at 919whp for over a year, car has high miles on it and he drives it hard. There are others.....

realcanuk · 03-13-2015, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

J-Rod6410 has been at 919whp for over a year, car has high miles on it and he drives it hard. There are others.....

The op asked advice about the forged motor he is building. To tell him it would be better to do a stock engine is just silly.

I guess definition of running hard is subjective. I have yet to see one make it through a season, if driven hard and taken to the track, which is the only reason anyone would need that power.
If its a dyno queen and cruises to car shows, I guess that should work out fine.

1KillerSS · 03-13-2015, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by realcanuk

The op asked advice about the forged motor he is building. To tell him it would be better to do a stock engine is just silly.

I guess definition of running hard is subjective. I have yet to see one make it through a season, if driven hard and taken to the track, which is the only reason anyone would need that power.
If its a dyno queen and cruises to car shows, I guess that should work out fine.

Jrods car is far from a dyno queen and weekend cruises to car shows, I never suggested the OP would be better doing it with a stock bottom end. I will try to clear up what I am saying then.....The OP's HP goals are totally within his reach with that forged motor, considering he is wanting to keep it at a number that stock bottom ends have shown they can handle.

Col. Brain · 03-13-2015, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by realcanuk

That's amazing. I got hit by a fast moving car once and I am still alive. Doesn't mean I suggest others to do it.

Like I said, if you drive it hard, 1000 rwhp on a stock engine might last a day, or a month, but will not last long.

Good luck with yours.

Going on season 3. It runs mid 5s at 140 in the 1/8th mile. You can be the judge if that is driving hard or not. And it has over 50 passes on it. Not bad for $1500 motor with 80k on it eh?

But you seem to know it all so carry on.

realcanuk · 03-13-2015, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Col. Brain

Going on season 3. It runs mid 5s at 140 in the 1/8th mile. You can be the judge if that is driving hard or not. And it has over 50 passes on it. Not bad for $1500 motor with 80k on it eh?

But you seem to know it all so carry on.

Ok... I give in....

OP.... the best thing you could do here is scrap the whole plan. Put in a stock motor and upgrade to an F1 blower..

DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THAT BUILT ENGINE......

1KillerSS · 03-13-2015, 09:19 AM

Col. Brain · 03-13-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by realcanuk

Ok... I give in....

OP.... the best thing you could do here is scrap the whole plan. Put in a stock motor and upgrade to an F1 blower..

DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THAT BUILT ENGINE......

You also fail at reading comprehension

I said use a stock block and dial in his tune/setup. I have seen at least 6 "built" motors pop on the dyno/strip because something was off. Going the stock block route allows him to get the car close before swapping in his forged motor. I never said don't build a motor.

Also the limits of the d1sc is about 900hp. At 850 he's getting to the limit of that unit. F1 units will make atleast 100hp or more and with that forged block he may want to turn the wick up in the future. The bug bites. It always does. Id rather have the F1A for his build than a d1sc.

He was looking for advice. This is my .02. He can take it or he can leave it.

Bo White · 03-13-2015, 09:32 AM

I'll say this and I've said it before on this forum.
It's like stereo equipment. Its like throwing 800 watts at a speaker that's rated for 400. Put a good amp and wires with a good install and play clean music and it will live if its not on 11 all the time. Add some distortion to it though.......pop.

03-12-2015, 07:16 PM	#15
Js2fst 2010 transformer Drives: 2010 ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Lee's summit mo Posts: 591	Go f1-r a guy just did 1050 and has room to go I have a 408 almost done it is similar with mast ls3 heads. __________________ 2010 transformer, vertical doors, 315nt05 rears, pedders supercar coilovers, hotchkis sway bars, links, adjustable, toe bars, bmr poly cradle bushings, 1le control arms, bmr tunnel brace, bmr subframe connectors. Cam 227/239-623-620@114 Mast medium bore heads, sw 1 7/8 headers, cat delete, x pipe, 3" dynomax true duals, fuel rails, fast 102 intake and NW 102 throttle body, catch can, rotofab cai, shifter, raptor custom shift light. Dss drive shaft, 3.91 gears. 492 rwhp

03-13-2015, 04:50 AM	#18
injector Drives: LS3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Qatar Posts: 122	Thanks guys. It is good to hear first hand experience. I will try to get the car up and running and finish the break in period. Then gona add the squash system+pump boost to 14-15 and tune. __________________ Texas Speed & Performance Custom Built Forged 408 CID, PRC LS3 260CC,Fast Intake & NW 102 TB, Alky Methanol kit, ID850, LPE Dual pumps,,Melling HV oil Pump. D1SC 10PSI, Stage 2 Air Intake,Magnaflow Axle back, Mcleod clutch, Pedders XA coilovers and sway bars, HD bushings, Hurst shifter, ACS bumper and hood ports, DSS aluminum drive shaft, CSF radiator .

03-13-2015, 05:24 AM	#19
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	You can live in the 750 to 850whp area on stock bottom end, like Bo said, crank it up, as long as you have the fuel. I am at 15lbs of boost, the PSI is not so much the issue, its more about how much power and cylinder pressure. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-13-2015, 07:51 AM	#21
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	J-Rod6410 has been at 919whp for over a year, car has high miles on it and he drives it hard. There are others..... __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-13-2015, 09:19 AM	#26
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	__________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-13-2015, 09:32 AM	#28
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	I'll say this and I've said it before on this forum. It's like stereo equipment. Its like throwing 800 watts at a speaker that's rated for 400. Put a good amp and wires with a good install and play clean music and it will live if its not on 11 all the time. Add some distortion to it though.......pop. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X