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Old 01-14-2019, 05:21 PM   #1
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Do I need to purchased new titanium retainers when I change out the springs? It`s a BTR STAGE 4 cam with titanium when it was installed.
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:48 PM   #2
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nope.
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:58 AM   #3
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nope.
What's more expensive a new set of titanium retainers or a new engine?

OP: buy new ones! Cheap shit compared to dropping a valve due to a busted retainer
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Old 01-16-2019, 09:14 AM   #4
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We just had a guy loose a Ti retainer and drop a valve. Supposedly Ti does wear much quicker than the steel retainers and is probably something you want to replace when you do springs.

I was (an still am) on the fence on retainers - I went with the steel because the extra 5 grams didn't bother me all that much, and I intend on putting lots of miles on my setup, and probably going through a few sets of springs. However, I wasn't really thinking I'd be turning this thing much past 7000rpm when I spec'd it out and bought parts. Now that I've got it all together I find it very happily makes power all the way out to 7300rpm, which is as far as I've been willing to go, and I find myself thinking maybe I should have got that extra 5 grams off the intake valves.
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Old 01-16-2019, 01:58 PM   #5
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I'm under the impression and with how my springs looked after putting 22k miles on my stg 4 btr cam. The springs retainers, and valve seals should all be replaced every 20k miles. even if my lifters had not failed, i had a couple valve seals going too, so I would have still has some issues...
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:01 PM   #6
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What's more expensive a new set of titanium retainers or a new engine?

OP: buy new ones! Cheap shit compared to dropping a valve due to a busted retainer
I definitely agree with it being cheap insurance. Just speaking from my experience, having never seen a broken or worn retainer.
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:10 PM   #7
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At 20k miles I'm replacing all my springs and assosicated parts. High performance valvesprings dont have the service life of a stock valvetrain, there is a lot more load on things.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:25 PM   #8
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I really appreciate the input guys. New springs it is.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:31 PM   #9
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I definitely agree with it being cheap insurance. Just speaking from my experience, having never seen a broken or worn retainer.
Gotcha, apologies for my comment then. I didn't know it wasn't a normal occurrence until doing some research.
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Old 01-16-2019, 04:01 PM   #10
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I definitely agree with it being cheap insurance. Just speaking from my experience, having never seen a broken or worn retainer.
I had never seen one until mine failed Saturday.......
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I had never seen one until mine failed Saturday.......
Ya, it's rare that one lets go.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:34 PM   #12
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BTR told me don't use the titanium retainers if the car is a daily or going to get a lot of miles. Just a heads up
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Old 01-16-2019, 06:37 PM   #13
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BTR told me don't use the titanium retainers if the car is a daily or going to get a lot of miles. Just a heads up
I have a set on a car that’s been 90k miles. Mine had 50k. Really it’s hard to say why it failed. Really “good” titanium retainers are about $500
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