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Grey_ghost_racing · 01-13-2019, 12:05 AM

I recently Had a f35 tsp cam installed on my car and tuned dyno netted 481 the car also has tsp 1 7/8 long tubes cat delete h pipe and flow master mufflers still has factory air box my issue is that the car feels like it may actually be a little slower in the top end I have not been able to hit same too speeds as I did before the cam install so is there other mods required with this size of cam to get the full benefit out of it I use the car as a dd and for roll racing and it performs great driving on the street and in the low end any advice will be appreciated

christianchevell · 01-13-2019, 07:36 AM

the f-35 is a cam not fan.... and I am sure the stock air box does not help, feel is subjective and what ever top seed your trying to hit you hit before the cam??? The computer will adjust and pull timing for various things like bad fuel BTW.... or lack of good air..... And recently having installed the cam on most likely not new engine you may want to clean the crap out and make sure you have a good catch can, check and make sure some other things others do as mods, and check your plugs which should be new and basically anything disconnected and reattached during the install. Good Luck.

Roader · 01-13-2019, 10:42 AM

Calm down now. I’m sure autocorrect changed cam to fan

Bo White · 01-13-2019, 11:23 AM

Thats good power with the stock airbox. Why do you still run it? What cam did you have before the F35?

Grey_ghost_racing · 01-13-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

Thats good power with the stock airbox. Why do you still run it? What cam did you have before the F35?

I was running factory cam before and didn’t feel that an aftermarket CAI would make a big enough difference for cost

HOJO · 01-13-2019, 03:49 PM

Given the size of the cam I would have to say your restrictions are air flow. That cam will flow a lot of air, you need to properly feed it and the stock intake will not fit the bill. I think you’d be pleasantly surprised at the overall gain. You’ll feel justified in the end with the money you’ll spend.

zz430camaro · 01-13-2019, 04:05 PM

With 481 rwhp on tap I am not sure what he is talking about, does not sound like any air restrictions to me. My car has 485 and it hauls ass.

Nb1081 · 01-13-2019, 05:34 PM

Well if you wanna keep the stock air box i have an airaid tube and k&n filter i ran the tube for about a month shoot me an offer i bought it july/august of 18 i still have the carb sticker too if you need it for inspection

Bo White · 01-13-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grey_ghost_racing

I was running factory cam before and didn’t feel that an aftermarket CAI would make a big enough difference for cost

Understood. Thats why I asked about why you still running it.

zz430camaro · 01-13-2019, 06:21 PM

If you were running the factory cam and switched to a new one and got 481 rwhp and the car feels like it does not go as fast something is wrong. What, I dont know LOL

205 · 01-13-2019, 06:26 PM

481 and not as fast? Are you only revving to 2500? Hope it all works out for you!

InFiD3ViL · 01-13-2019, 10:37 PM

I am thinking he is not pulling it above 5k rpm + and/OR the loss of low end torque is making the car 'feel' slower.

Remember, a lot of people don't rev these cars out. If you are one of the people that spends nearly all your time between idle-4k rpm, how much benefit are you going to feel from a high lift cam? You will probably notice the loss of bottom end more than anything.

Grey_ghost_racing · 01-16-2019, 09:11 PM

To clarify more the car has a big difference below 4K but after that it feels like a stock car that needs an oil change and I will run it to 6500-7000 when racing that’s where I’m seeing the fault is the top end when I’m racing not in town driving

zz430camaro · 01-16-2019, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grey_ghost_racing

To clarify more the car has a big difference below 4K but after that it feels like a stock car that needs an oil change and I will run it to 6500-7000 when racing that’s where I’m seeing the fault is the top end when I’m racing not in town driving

Should be the other way around, should come alive after 4k, pull harder and rev faster.

01-13-2019, 12:05 AM	#1
Grey_ghost_racing Drives: 2010 ls3 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 19	F35 cam issue I recently Had a f35 tsp cam installed on my car and tuned dyno netted 481 the car also has tsp 1 7/8 long tubes cat delete h pipe and flow master mufflers still has factory air box my issue is that the car feels like it may actually be a little slower in the top end I have not been able to hit same too speeds as I did before the cam install so is there other mods required with this size of cam to get the full benefit out of it I use the car as a dd and for roll racing and it performs great driving on the street and in the low end any advice will be appreciated Last edited by Grey_ghost_racing; 01-13-2019 at 03:34 PM.

01-13-2019, 07:36 AM	#2
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	the f-35 is a cam not fan.... and I am sure the stock air box does not help, feel is subjective and what ever top seed your trying to hit you hit before the cam??? The computer will adjust and pull timing for various things like bad fuel BTW.... or lack of good air..... And recently having installed the cam on most likely not new engine you may want to clean the crap out and make sure you have a good catch can, check and make sure some other things others do as mods, and check your plugs which should be new and basically anything disconnected and reattached during the install. Good Luck. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

01-13-2019, 04:05 PM	#7
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	With 481 rwhp on tap I am not sure what he is talking about, does not sound like any air restrictions to me. My car has 485 and it hauls ass. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

01-13-2019, 05:34 PM	#8
Nb1081 Drives: 10 2ss/rs Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Shelby ny Posts: 436	Well if you wanna keep the stock air box i have an airaid tube and k&n filter i ran the tube for about a month shoot me an offer i bought it july/august of 18 i still have the carb sticker too if you need it for inspection __________________ [/SIGPIC]10 2ss ls3 sw long tubes,cai intake,phastek scoop,se3" exhaust,elite e2, bw stg2tb, tsp f35, motive 4.10 lpw cover, 15" conversion, 510whp tuned by john donovan

01-13-2019, 06:21 PM	#10
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	If you were running the factory cam and switched to a new one and got 481 rwhp and the car feels like it does not go as fast something is wrong. What, I dont know LOL __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

01-13-2019, 10:42 AM	#3
Roader Drives: Camaro Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Alabama Posts: 673	Calm down now. I’m sure autocorrect changed cam to fan

01-13-2019, 11:23 AM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Thats good power with the stock airbox. Why do you still run it? What cam did you have before the F35?

01-13-2019, 03:49 PM	#6
HOJO Drives: 2014 Camaro SS/RS 1LE 1967 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 874	Given the size of the cam I would have to say your restrictions are air flow. That cam will flow a lot of air, you need to properly feed it and the stock intake will not fit the bill. I think you’d be pleasantly surprised at the overall gain. You’ll feel justified in the end with the money you’ll spend.

01-13-2019, 06:26 PM	#11
205 Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: OK Posts: 161	481 and not as fast? Are you only revving to 2500? Hope it all works out for you!

01-13-2019, 10:37 PM	#12
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,574	I am thinking he is not pulling it above 5k rpm + and/OR the loss of low end torque is making the car 'feel' slower. Remember, a lot of people don't rev these cars out. If you are one of the people that spends nearly all your time between idle-4k rpm, how much benefit are you going to feel from a high lift cam? You will probably notice the loss of bottom end more than anything. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

01-16-2019, 09:11 PM	#13
Grey_ghost_racing Drives: 2010 ls3 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 19	To clarify more the car has a big difference below 4K but after that it feels like a stock car that needs an oil change and I will run it to 6500-7000 when racing that’s where I’m seeing the fault is the top end when I’m racing not in town driving