[ihc95]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Lol that article says the auto GT ran a 12.1 and the MANUAL SS ran a 12.2. Sure you want to be quoting that article?

Haha so that would mean the new A10 camaro is slower than the M6. But I can't find where they did a 12.2 in an M6 anywhere. I see they got 12.3 for the 2016 M6 and A8 though which are good times. Would be a shame if the new A10 didn't improve upon that.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by ihc95

Haha so that would mean the new A10 camaro is slower than the M6. But I can't find where they did a 12.2 in an M6 anywhere. I see they got 12.3 for the 2016 M6 and A8 though which are good times. Would be a shame if the new A10 didn't improve upon that.

I assume they made a mistake and meant to say the auto SS ran a 12.2. If not then.... lol

[Martinjlm]

The way I read this, C&D got 4.0 with the Camaro SS M6 and 3.9 with the Camaro SS A10 and they got 4.3 with the GT PP1 M6 and 3.8 with the GT PP1 A10.

The 10-speed GT rocketed to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds versus the manual's 4.3, and it shaved half a second off the quarter-mile run, posting a 12.1 at 120 mph compared to a 12.6 at 115 mph. While the 455-hp Camaro SS with the six-speed manual bettered the similar GT with 4.0- and 12.2-second figures, the automatic Ford outpaced the 2019 Chevy with a very similar 10-speed by a tenth both to 60 mph and through the quarter, and also had a 2-mph-faster trap speed.

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

The way I read this, C&D got 4.0 with the Camaro SS M6 and 3.9 with the Camaro SS A10 and they got 4.3 with the GT PP1 M6 and 3.8 with the GT PP1 A10.

The 10-speed GT rocketed to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds versus the manual's 4.3, and it shaved half a second off the quarter-mile run, posting a 12.1 at 120 mph compared to a 12.6 at 115 mph. While the 455-hp Camaro SS with the six-speed manual bettered the similar GT with 4.0- and 12.2-second figures, the automatic Ford outpaced the 2019 Chevy with a very similar 10-speed by a tenth both to 60 mph and through the quarter, and also had a 2-mph-faster trap speed.

So there saying the Camaro 6 speed manual is just as fast as the Camaro 10 speed in the 1/4 mile. I do find that hard to believe.

[hotlap]

GT A10
0-60 : 3.8 sec
1/4: 12.1 @ 120

SS A10
0-60: 3.9
1/4: 12.2 @ 118

GT M6
0-60: 4.3 sec
1/4: 12.6 @ 115

SS M6
0-60: 4.0 sec
1/4: 12.2 @ ?

The 10-speed GT rocketed to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds versus the manual's 4.3, and it shaved half a second off the quarter-mile run, posting a 12.1 at 120 mph compared to a 12.6 at 115 mph. While the 455-hp Camaro SS with the six-speed manual bettered the similar GT with 4.0- and 12.2-second figures, the automatic Ford outpaced the 2019 Chevy with a very similar 10-speed by a tenth both to 60 mph and through the quarter, and also had a 2-mph-faster trap speed.

[jmackisback]

Camaro is faster in any comparable trim. Crustang fanboys are hilarious. Not only do they have the uglier car, its slower too! Lol.

[torqueaddict]

That 120 trap for the GT A10 seems pretty generous considering actual traps seen at the track fall anywhere from 115-118 for the majority. I'd say the SS and GT A10s are about even.

The C&D driver mod has to be good to get those SS M6 times. People have gotten low 12s so it's definitely possible but it ain't easy. The GT manual as always, last to the finish line. It has to be the MT82 gearing.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ihc95

According to Car and Driver, a 2018 A10 GT is faster than a 2019 A10 SS.


"the automatic Ford outpaced the 2019 Chevy with a very similar 10-speed by a tenth both to 60 mph and through the quarter, and also had a 2-mph-faster trap speed."


https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...on-performance

straight line...put them both on a road course and let me know how that works out.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

straight line...put them both on a road course and let me know how that works out.

SS and PP1 would run within a fraction of a second, like they do in the 1/4.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

SS and PP1 would run within a fraction of a second, like they do in the 1/4.

For how long? 3 laps?

[ihc95]

Originally Posted by jmackisback

Camaro is faster in any comparable trim. Crustang fanboys are hilarious. Not only do they have the uglier car, its slower too! Lol.

Is that why the Camaro is endangered of being discontinued again while the Mustang and Challenger sales are still strong?

[BlaqWhole]

Give it some time. Remember when the first A10 GTs were being tested and they were snapping axles, snapping driveshafts, I think one of them had an engine blow up, a couple of them with DRs couldn't run better than a 12.3, and they were doing like 12.4-12.6 stock. Then all of a sudden Evans found a magic one halfway across the country and then all of a sudden they were low 12 sec cars. So these are the first testings and I wouldn't expect to see the best it can do at this point. Let's see what a few others get out of it. But if it is already doing a 12.2 in it's first test, then we should see it do better if it gets tested in better conditions and such.

Even if it doesn't do much better it is still pretty much dead even. 1 tenth of a second in a quarter mile is nothing. The Ford boys had their little win for 1 MY but it now seems that short lived victory is just about over. Plus we all know that GM doesn't do major upgrades mid-Gen. Ford HAD to do a major update after getting their asses kicked. They had no choice. Everything on that POS had to be ditched and done over so they could be competitive. GM just had to throw in the A10 trans at this point, lol!! So I think we'll see the A10 SS do a 12 flat or 12.1 once a few more testers get their hands on them and once these cars have been broken in a bit more.

[BlaqWhole]

Failed to mention but...am I seeing this correctly? The M6 SS is just as fast as the $65K Shelby GT350R??? LOL!! WTF?! I find that to be hilarious. AT this point who even cares if the A10 GT is 1 tenth faster than the A10 SS? The fact that the SS is on par with the GT350R says a lot. Without the A10 (which was co-developed with GM BTW) it seems that the Mustangs can't do shit even with more HP. So even when they're 1 tenth faster the Mustang is STILL losing!! Look at that horrible-ass M6 time...12.6?? Gotta hand it to GM! They're just killing it this Gen. That GT500 needs to come out soon and it needs to obliterate everything for Ford to maintain whatever remaining dignity they have.

[ihc95]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Give it some time. Remember when the first A10 GTs were being tested and they were snapping axles, snapping driveshafts, I think one of them had an engine blow up, a couple of them with DRs couldn't run better than a 12.3, and they were doing like 12.4-12.6 stock. Then all of a sudden Evans found a magic one halfway across the country and then all of a sudden they were low 12 sec cars. So these are the first testings and I wouldn't expect to see the best it can do at this point. Let's see what a few others get out of it. But if it is already doing a 12.2 in it's first test, then we should see it do better if it gets tested in better conditions and such.

Even if it doesn't do much better it is still pretty much dead even. 1 tenth of a second in a quarter mile is nothing. The Ford boys had their little win for 1 MY but it now seems that short lived victory is just about over. Plus we all know that GM doesn't do major upgrades mid-Gen. Ford HAD to do a major update after getting their asses kicked. They had no choice. Everything on that POS had to be ditched and done over so they could be competitive. GM just had to throw in the A10 trans at this point, lol!! So I think we'll see the A10 SS do a 12 flat or 12.1 once a few more testers get their hands on them and once these cars have been broken in a bit more.

lol too bad the A10 didn't do shit for the Camaro. Its running the same numbers it did back in 2015 lmfao