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Old 02-14-2020, 07:48 PM   #15
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OP- The only way anyone can honestly give you a suggestion or recommendation is you have to state what car you are talking about needing to mod to be as fast or faster than gen6! Ca’Besh!! Are you talking about a gen5 1Le and what it would take or a gen5ss auto or a gen5 v6 or a Toyota Corolla??? You did not state anywhere what car you are referring to modifying to be as fast etc. than a gen6 1LE.

My appologies I should have stated a gen 5 1LE I just figured posting in the camaro5 1LE forum others would figure it would be a gen 5 1LE to start with.
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:05 PM   #16
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What is your starting point? What are you adding the performance mods you? For all I know, you have a v6.
No, don't have a v6. The starting point is a gen 5 1LE sorry I wasn't specific. So let’s say a 2014-2015 1LE which obviously has a V8 in it. All I wanted to know was what performance mods would you have to put into the gen 5 1LE for it to be as fast as the gen 6 1LE in a drag race or straight line race.

That’s why I gave the example of a few performance mods to start with like a tune, CAI, and headers as a lead to figure out if those mods were able to get the gen 5 1LE as fast as the Gen 6 1LE or if it required different mods to be as fast.
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:07 PM   #17
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Why would he post on the 1LE forum if he wasn't planning on a 1LE ?
Thank you sir!
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:09 PM   #18
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Small cam ,long tubes and a good tune should get you there. Remember the gen 6 is a lighter car .
Appreciate it man glad to know!
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:17 PM   #19
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For a cam, heads and tune I've been quoted as low as 7k and as high as 10.5k
Good to know thank you!
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:21 PM   #20
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In my 2013 SS 1LE I had a btr stage 4, long tubes, Cai and tune and could not pull away from a stock 6th gen SS both cars were manual.

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Hmm interesting with those mods you weren't able to pull away...
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:14 PM   #21
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Kinda basic number crunching here: Gen 5 car weighs approx 300 lbs. more. Gen 6 car has about 30 HP more. Add, subtract or divide above numbers and I think you'll come up with about $5K (depending on labor and quality of parts) to make the 5 faster than the 6 but that is just me doing gearhead broken pencil arithmetic.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:17 PM   #22
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Kinda basic number crunching here: Gen 5 car weighs approx 300 lbs. more. Gen 6 car has about 30 HP more. Add, subtract or divide above numbers and I think you'll come up with about $5K (depending on labor and quality of parts) to make the 5 faster than the 6 but that is just me doing gearhead broken pencil arithmetic.
Sounds pretty acurate thank you for this!
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:42 PM   #23
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For a cam, heads and tune I've been quoted as low as 7k and as high as 10.5k
That seems awful pricey for a top end job.

$2k Heads
$1k cam/valvetrain
$2k Tune/Labor

I could maybe see $6 depending on the parts you select. For $7 to $10k I would be going FI with out a question.
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Old Yesterday, 07:01 AM   #24
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That seems awful pricey for a top end job.

$2k Heads
$1k cam/valvetrain
$2k Tune/Labor

I could maybe see $6 depending on the parts you select. For $7 to $10k I would be going FI with out a question.
I wanted aftermarket 6 bolt heads for future FI and use on a new 6 bolt block so the prices are a little high BUT...... 2 shops recommend Mast Black Label cylinder head another was going to use A.I. heads.

Shop 1 breakdown

MAST 255cc LS3 Cylinder Heads - Hydraulic
- MAST BIllet Rocker Stands
- PAC Dual Valve Spring Kit
- MAST Hollow Stem Intake Valves
- MAST Inconel Exhaust Valves
3,979.97 3,979.97T
Johnson 2210R Drop-In Lifter Set 449.99 449.99T
4 8.75 35.00T GM LS2 Lifter Tray
ARP Gen IV Head Bolt Kit 126.99 126.99T
2 39.99 79.98T GM MLS 6.2L LS3 Head Gasket
2 17.99 35.98T GM MLS LS Exhaust Gasket
Custom Camshaft
5/16" Hardened Pushrods
C5R Timing Chain
Melling Hi Volume Oil Pump - 10296
Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade
GM Front Cover Seal
GM Front Cover Gasket
GM Waterpump Gasket Set
GM Crank Bolt
ARP Cam Bolts
LS7 Timing Gear
LS2 Dogbone Timing Damper
1,149.99 1,149.99T
NGK TR55 Spark Plug Set 24.99 24.99T
8 8.75 70.00T High Temp Spark Plug Wire Insulator
160* LS3 Thermostat 24.99 24.99T
24 125.00 3,000.00 Complete/Professional Installation of all items listed
7 9.99 69.93T Driven LS30 Racing Oil
AC Delco PF48 Oil Filter- Fits Gen IV LS Applications 6.99 6.99T
Dexcool Coolant- 1 Gallon 18.99 18.99T
Custom ECU Calibration
- Includes ECU License with EFI Live or HP Tuner
- Full street/dyno calibration
590.00 590.00
Misc Shop Supplies
Every vehicle at our facility receives a disposable seat cover and floor mat.
We also utilize a high quality protective film on any exterior surfaces
where we might be working. This fee covers the cost of these items as well
as general shop supplies, such as:
- Brake Cleaner
- Shop Towels
- Absorbent Pads
32.50 32.50
Shipping/Handling/Insurance 65.00 65.00
Page 2
$9,761.29
$9,761.29

Shop 2

 Trick Flow 255cc Cylinder Heads
 Custom Grind Camshaft
 Dual Valve Springs with Titanium Retainers, Lockers, and Keepers
 Rocker Arm Trunnion Kit
 Chromoly Pushrods
 GM Cam Sprocket
 LS7 Cam Chain Tensioners
 GM Lifters and Lifter Trays
 ARP Head Bolts
 New GM Gaskets and Seals
 Oil and Filter Change
 NGK spark plugs
 160 Degree Thermostat
 Custom engine and transmission calibration

All above for the sum of $ 9,045.00 (excludes sales tax)
REQUIRED DEPOSIT $ 6,150.00; BALANCE UPON COMPLETION
ADDITIONAL ITEMS;
 ADD $550.00 for MAST Heads
LEAD TIMES;
 PARTS 2‐3 WEEKS
 INSTALLATION 2‐3 WEEKS aŌer parts arrival
So 9590.00 x .06% =575.4 so a grand total of 10165.4

Then shop 3 we didnt really get to the official quote because of the distance between my house and that shop but was quoted about 7000. They were going to use Brodix heads.
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Old Yesterday, 12:23 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76 View Post
I wanted aftermarket 6 bolt heads for future FI and use on a new 6 bolt block so the prices are a little high BUT...... 2 shops recommend Mast Black Label cylinder head another was going to use A.I. heads.

Shop 1 breakdown

MAST 255cc LS3 Cylinder Heads - Hydraulic
- MAST BIllet Rocker Stands
- PAC Dual Valve Spring Kit
- MAST Hollow Stem Intake Valves
- MAST Inconel Exhaust Valves
3,979.97 3,979.97T
Johnson 2210R Drop-In Lifter Set 449.99 449.99T
4 8.75 35.00T GM LS2 Lifter Tray
ARP Gen IV Head Bolt Kit 126.99 126.99T
2 39.99 79.98T GM MLS 6.2L LS3 Head Gasket
2 17.99 35.98T GM MLS LS Exhaust Gasket
Custom Camshaft
5/16" Hardened Pushrods
C5R Timing Chain
Melling Hi Volume Oil Pump - 10296
Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade
GM Front Cover Seal
GM Front Cover Gasket
GM Waterpump Gasket Set
GM Crank Bolt
ARP Cam Bolts
LS7 Timing Gear
LS2 Dogbone Timing Damper
1,149.99 1,149.99T
NGK TR55 Spark Plug Set 24.99 24.99T
8 8.75 70.00T High Temp Spark Plug Wire Insulator
160* LS3 Thermostat 24.99 24.99T
24 125.00 3,000.00 Complete/Professional Installation of all items listed
7 9.99 69.93T Driven LS30 Racing Oil
AC Delco PF48 Oil Filter- Fits Gen IV LS Applications 6.99 6.99T
Dexcool Coolant- 1 Gallon 18.99 18.99T
Custom ECU Calibration
- Includes ECU License with EFI Live or HP Tuner
- Full street/dyno calibration
590.00 590.00
Misc Shop Supplies
Every vehicle at our facility receives a disposable seat cover and floor mat.
We also utilize a high quality protective film on any exterior surfaces
where we might be working. This fee covers the cost of these items as well
as general shop supplies, such as:
- Brake Cleaner
- Shop Towels
- Absorbent Pads
32.50 32.50
Shipping/Handling/Insurance 65.00 65.00
Page 2
$9,761.29
$9,761.29

Shop 2

 Trick Flow 255cc Cylinder Heads
 Custom Grind Camshaft
 Dual Valve Springs with Titanium Retainers, Lockers, and Keepers
 Rocker Arm Trunnion Kit
 Chromoly Pushrods
 GM Cam Sprocket
 LS7 Cam Chain Tensioners
 GM Lifters and Lifter Trays
 ARP Head Bolts
 New GM Gaskets and Seals
 Oil and Filter Change
 NGK spark plugs
 160 Degree Thermostat
 Custom engine and transmission calibration

All above for the sum of $ 9,045.00 (excludes sales tax)
REQUIRED DEPOSIT $ 6,150.00; BALANCE UPON COMPLETION
ADDITIONAL ITEMS;
 ADD $550.00 for MAST Heads
LEAD TIMES;
 PARTS 2‐3 WEEKS
 INSTALLATION 2‐3 WEEKS aŌer parts arrival
So 9590.00 x .06% =575.4 so a grand total of 10165.4

Then shop 3 we didnt really get to the official quote because of the distance between my house and that shop but was quoted about 7000. They were going to use Brodix heads.
That is quite the laundry list of mods lol. By the way you have a nice 2013 1LE.
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Old Yesterday, 02:00 PM   #26
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That is quite the laundry list of mods lol. By the way you have a nice 2013 1LE.
yeah thats wish list at the moment. Scheduled a tune with shop #2 in april but thats for my current mods, not the wish list mods.

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The modification you need is man with a baseball bat. He can then hit both you, and the 6th-gen driver, in the head for attempting to race 1LEs in a straight line.
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