2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by ChuckD

ZL1 has reached supercar status on the track - with no track pack - all standard equipment.

In the hands of??? Chevy??? The guys that pull 1.6x on stock tires??? The guys who use simulators (Al O.) to say that the ZL-1 will beat the GT-500 on the strip?

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

And we are back to the roadcourse arguments.

You expect anything else after the 1/4 #'s the GT-500 posted?

[gearhead08]

Quarter mile
2013 GT500 1
2012 ZL1 0

Top Speed
2013 GT500 1
2012 ZL1 0

Weight
2013 GT500 1
2012 ZL1 0

Handling
2013 GT500 TBA
2012 ZL1 TBA

So seeing as there has not been a direct comparison on the last part. I feel as if I know which car im leaning towards performance wise. MRC can only sweeten the deal so much... They both look great would love to have them both.

[wawrecker]

Originally Posted by el ess X

I'm glad that the fanbois of either denomination, Ford or Chevy, can have their cake and eat it too. Competition makes the heartbeat under the hood more powerful.

But I do have one question: Is there any chance of not getting the gay stripes on the new Cobra? Those things look like azz. It would look hella better without it ruining what little styling the car has left. I guess since they're vinyl you could take them off. But they simply look stupid IMO.

Says the man with stripes on his car.....

[gearhead08]

Originally Posted by wawrecker

Says the man with stripes on his car.....

[Ron66Vette&10SS]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

And we are back to the roadcourse arguments.

I'm surprised it didn't start sooner.

[J666]

Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

I'm in the same boat as you. I've owned 3 Corvettes and 6 Camaros, with a couple each of Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles thrown in. NOTHING BUT GM and and NEVER considered a Mustang.......that is until the '13 Shelby was announced.

As much as LOVE the look of the ZL1, I'm dissapointed as hell in its stock straight-line performance. I could "settle" for the look of the Shelby as long as it solidly runs in the 11's, but I won't "settle" for a ZL1 that struggles to even get into the low 12's...even if it does look MUCH better in my opinion. Unless the ZL1 were to magically (or should I say miraculously?) get a bump of 100hp or more from GM, I don't see one in my future :(.

I'm waiting a bit longer to see how the C7 Corvette looks (without the camo) and performs before I make my final decision, but more than likely my next vehicle will either be a low mileage C6 Z06 or a new Shelby.

What's so ugly about the Shelby?

[2012 IngotSilver 5.0]

Originally Posted by gearhead08

Quarter mile
2013 GT500 WINNER
2012 ZL1 WINNER

Top Speed
2013 GT500 WINNER
2012 ZL1 WINNER

Weight
2013 GT500 WINNER
2012 ZL1 WINNER

Handling
2013 GT500 WINNER
2012 ZL1 WINNER

Corrected your post, you're welcome.

... I feel as if I know which car im leaning towards performance wise. MRC can only sweeten the deal so much...

You already drive an 09 gt500, pretty obvious to everyone which way you're leaning.

[2012 IngotSilver 5.0]

Originally Posted by J666

What's so ugly about the Shelby?

Not ugly, to be sure.

But design has been around since 05, dated when compared to the Camaro ...

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I will use the time put down by Evan as the GT500s benchmark. If 11:80s is all he could muster I doubt many owners will better that number on stock rubber. Also all this mph talk is just that talk, If i beat a 500 running 116 mph to his 124, it doesn't matter I won. The average Joes will run low 12s to high 11s with the car at the local strips.

Wow...this is just plain silly to say mph doesnt matter. MPH shows what the car is CAPABLE of ET wise with a decent short time.

116mph will only be good for mid 11's AT BEST. More like high 11's on average.

127-129mph on the other hand will put u in solid 10's!!!

So basically a FULL second.

Again thats HUGE.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

Thats what I like about ford. It was a very classy move to start delivering cars to customers without starting a huge media campaign and throwing out numbers and saying how it will crush the competition. Instead they realeased the car with humble ness and class and let the car and its performance speak for itself. Kinda like when a pro scores a touchdown and doesnt ruin it by doing stupid celebration dances, nope, svt scored this touchdown and acted like they've been there before and have done it all their lives, congrats svt!!!

EXACTLY!!!

[GMRULZ]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Wow...this is just plain silly to say mph doesnt matter. MPH shows what the car is CAPABLE of ET wise with a decent short time.

116mph will only be good for mid 11's AT BEST. More like high 11's on average.

127-129mph on the hand put u in solid 10's!!!

So basically a FULL second.

Again thats HUGE.

Ok, I`ll bite, mph is coulda, shoulda, woulda... I have run so many cars who out mph me in the 1/4 and I out ET them. Its all about the setup and putting power to the ground as well as power under the curve when drag racing. How many Supra`s making 1k hp have you seen running 11.00`s at 150 mph? I have seen 3. Not because they are spinning off the line either. Sure tires will help the 500 but you have to be able to drive it at that power level and the setup makes a huge deal. I ran w/ in 4 tenths ( he ran 10.46@14x) of a 2010 800rwhp shelby 500 that had a drag race setup and hooked it for that run. That was his best run of the day, most of his runs were in the 10.7`s. I have beat several other Shelby`s w/ 100+ more rwhp than me. The 800rwhp one is the only one to beat me so far at my local track here in VA. It only took him 264 more rwhp to beat me by 4 tenths. If I was at 600rwhp I would have beat him easy.

The ZL1 comes in automatic and the 500 doesn`t, and I think the average ZL1 driver in an automatic car will beat the average 2013 GT driver, stock for stock 9 times out of 10 down the 1/4 mile. Now this is just my opinion we will have to wait and see if this bears fruit or not. Manaul zl-1 I do think the 500 will win.

127-129mph on a manual car does not put 99% of drivers in the 10`s, automatic car yes, manual no.


I`m not all that impressed w/ the 2013 500, they basicly just turned the boost up, you could have done that w/ the previous model, yes I know the motors diff, and there are other improvements, but you are not going to be able to add much boost percentage wise to the 2013 like you did with the previous models over the stock level. I also understand this 5.8 has more compression. 2012 guys don`t run out and trade your 500`s in in my opinion. But then I`m not at all impressed w/ the ZL1`s 1/4 mile abilities either.

Personally I think take a 5.0 boost it or take a SS and boost it. faster, lot less money, if you want a 1/4 mile car. But thats just me , I don`t like being parted from my dollars.

[BigHemiSrt]

No need to get into all that since from the start u said basically exactly what i said. Shoulda woulda COULDA (can) meaning capable. Thats all i was saying is what the car would be capable of.

Also you know damn well 116 in a car like the ZL1 will not get you a 11sec slip 99% of the time. Especially with a M6. Mid 12's on average and low 12's at best with a high 11 hero run here and there.

Yes a properly set up car just for the dragstrip can run mid and high 11's @ 116mph but not ZL1.

I ran 11.6@117 but that was with big and littles. No sway bars. Slicks. 3200 stall and 1.5 sixty foot. No ZL1 off the showroom floor will run a 11.6@117.

[gearhead08]

Originally Posted by 2012 IngotSilver 5.0

Corrected your post, you're welcome.

You already drive an 09 gt500, pretty obvious to everyone which way you're leaning.

I was a chevy guy long before I was a ford guy. I also have a brand new 2012 Silverado. I am a crossbreed. When it comes to performance IMO the GT500 is better. When it comes to looks I like them both.