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1BLWN/LE · 03-21-2014, 08:36 AM

By the way Did you do paint class on the side of your car at romper room?

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ST1LE · 03-21-2014, 08:40 AM

This is getting out of hand and is beginning to ruin this thread. If you dont have something more to add, other than name calling, please dont waste our time.

1BLWN/LE · 03-21-2014, 08:42 AM

Don't worry I'm out... I'm bored with butt hurt Novie and his Crusades..

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Norm Peterson · 03-21-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1BLWN/LE

I always enjoy reading your posts.
+1

Thanks. Maybe having an independent (some might say 'different') outlook has an up-side after all

Meanwhile, I found somebody on a Mustang forum (not SVTperformance) had put up some pictures of 10.5" wide wheels on a Mustang that I might find useful to help me at least keep you guys in sight at places like NJMP. Hopefully that's not just wishful thinking.

Norm

TxBandit911 · 03-21-2014, 08:53 AM

Wow, I think you guys are taking this way to seriously. Both cars have their flaws, pic the one that has the flaws you can deal with, that's why I always chose the fbody over the mustang...its not complicated....

Novie LE · 03-21-2014, 08:58 AM

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By the way Did you do paint class on the side of your car at romper room?

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It's painters tape. It is used to identify the class and car number during autox events. Car was a couple days old. Don't worry I used paint thinner to get it all off and then used black spray paint to make it cleaner.....hopefully I don't change classes or numbers anymore cause I'm going to need a paint job......
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Norm Peterson · 03-21-2014, 12:10 PM

I'll bet you could make that into 04 ESP without a whole lot of trouble . . .

Norm

Novie LE · 03-21-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I'll bet you could make that into 04 ESP without a whole lot of trouble . . .

Norm

Lmao!

Michael2000 · 03-21-2014, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aggieguy13

LE is slower 1/4 because you have to use 4th.

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Maybe that, and it weighs 242 pounds more with about the same horsepower.

Michael

aggieguy13 · 03-21-2014, 12:24 PM

Each rim/tire is 69lbs 0,o

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2cnd chance · 03-21-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Proof of "stock" on the fast lists here isn't any stronger.

But why is the discussion still centering around drag racing when the topic (including MT's and Randy's comments) is not really about the Mustang being faster, only feeling like it might be.

Edit, yeah, I keep falling behind here.

Norm

This in my opinion is a big negative. "Feeling" and not actually being quicker reflects a soft and less controllable chassis. On the other hand a car that feels slower than it is shows that it is very much in control, and that the chassis is capable of even more power.

Novie LE · 03-21-2014, 01:27 PM

The feeling is because the gearing is shorter. The track pack 5.0 if my memory serves me right has to be shifted to 5th in a drag race. Short gearing make the car snappy and lively. The highest gear (3.31) on the manual is still shorter than the 3.91 in the 1le when you look at the mph attained in each gear.

Norm Peterson · 03-21-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

This in my opinion is a big negative. "Feeling" and not actually being quicker reflects a soft and less controllable chassis. On the other hand a car that feels slower than it is shows that it is very much in control, and that the chassis is capable of even more power.

This ↑↑↑.

Trouble is, the marketing gurus tend not to see things that way. "Feeling quicker" is perception, which for most folks is reality even when it's wrong. . . which marketing hopes will translate to more sales. Grrrrr.

The Mustang's tip in response probably is just a little crisper - a number of top autocrossers have complained about it being TOO responsive for easy throttle modulation on corner exit. This persists just long enough to get the tail loose without being nearly long enough to be useful. For the average driver on the street, this'll make the car feel "snappier" without being faster/quicker under sustained WOT acceleration. Perception.

Norm

Cody6.2 · 03-21-2014, 06:29 PM

How did the how a "car feels" go from a handling perspective (intended point) to a discussion about gearing & acceleration?

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Novie LE Drives: 2014 1LE Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sometimes here, sometimes there Posts: 399	The feeling is because the gearing is shorter. The track pack 5.0 if my memory serves me right has to be shifted to 5th in a drag race. Short gearing make the car snappy and lively. The highest gear (3.31) on the manual is still shorter than the 3.91 in the 1le when you look at the mph attained in each gear. __________________ 2014 Red Hot 1LE

03-21-2014, 08:36 AM	#127
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03-21-2014, 08:42 AM	#129
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03-21-2014, 08:53 AM	#131
TxBandit911 Call Me"Doc" Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 1LE BLACK Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ft Riley, Kansas Posts: 890	Wow, I think you guys are taking this way to seriously. Both cars have their flaws, pic the one that has the flaws you can deal with, that's why I always chose the fbody over the mustang...its not complicated....

03-21-2014, 12:10 PM	#133
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	I'll bet you could make that into 04 ESP without a whole lot of trouble . . . Norm

03-21-2014, 06:29 PM	#140
Cody6.2 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Nebraska Posts: 605	How did the how a "car feels" go from a handling perspective (intended point) to a discussion about gearing & acceleration?