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*SSE 4 2SS* · 03-17-2012, 08:23 AM

Drake...

Did you get a chance to read the writeup by Dragoneye...

He mentioned the magazine writers (how some of them got up immediately after dinner and left rather than taking advantage of the oppurtunity to ask some very high level engineers questions face to face...) and I had reaffirmed to me that you have to take what they say with a grain of salt... Like anyone else, they have their favorites and nothing else compares.

Some of them are objective and write meaningful and informative articles, other look for dirt... It's a crap shoot at best...

Drake Heminger · 03-17-2012, 08:24 AM

actireman · 03-17-2012, 08:28 AM

It has stopped because they have a problem with a part they are not happy with. They are waiting for the new ones and then they will begin to ship. Not all have the bad part, but they are holding all. They are very tight lipped about what part it is, because if they said it would be all over the internet and then it would be picked apart by everybody. They would have people making mountains out of mole hills. It would be like if they had a stiching problem on the back seats. Everybody when they got their car would be in the back seat looking to make sure it is perfect, and if there was one little thing they would want it replaced. It won't be long and we will have our cars.
And no, I'm not going to give a name.

Drake Heminger · 03-17-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

Drake...

Did you get a chance to read the writeup by Dragoneye...

He mentioned the magazine writers (how some of them got up immediately after dinner and left rather than taking advantage of the oppurtunity to ask some very high level engineers questions face to face...) and I had reaffirmed to me that you have to take what they say with a grain of salt... Like anyone else, they have their favorites and nothing else compares.

Some of them are objective and write meaningful and informative articles, other look for dirt... It's a crap shoot at best...

I know your right... Just been getting to thinking... I want a car that will last atleast 5 or so years... I hope this one does... This is a lot of money here and it's in the fields of Europeans... I just wanna make sure I get a good car thats going to last... I don't wanna get buyers remorse :/

Drake Heminger · 03-17-2012, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by actireman

It has stopped because they have a problem with a part they are not happy with. They are waiting for the new ones and then they will begin to ship. Not all have the bad part, but they are holding all. They are very tight lipped about what part it is, because if they said it would be all over the internet and then it would be picked apart by everybody. They would have people making mountains out of mole hills. It would be like if they had a stiching problem on the back seats. Everybody when they got their car would be in the back seat looking to make sure it is perfect, and if there was one little thing they would want it replaced. It won't be long and we will have our cars.
And no, I'm not going to give a name.

Thanks for the info... Still it's not good news... It's not out yet and already a problem... :/

wilmaya · 03-17-2012, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel70

Surely it can't be much longer if we're supposed to receive them by mid march.

Well it's mid March and if they were released Monday I don't think I would have it until April

actireman · 03-17-2012, 08:34 AM

Remember, 30% new parts, means new vendors. And also there is a big difference in making a few real good to get the job and then making thousands at the same quality. I'm just glad GM is not letting it just slide thru.

Drake Heminger · 03-17-2012, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by actireman

Remember, 30% new parts, means new vendors. And also there is a big difference in making a few real good to get the job and then making thousands at the same quality. I'm just glad GM is not letting it just slide thru.

True true... One question I'm nOt going to ask names but is your source very reliable? Just wondering

Drake Heminger · 03-17-2012, 08:38 AM

My dealership said the letter they got said mid march to late march and customer service said the only thing they got was late first quarter

b4z · 03-17-2012, 08:51 AM

I think that gm as a general practice should use more plastic protection on their cars before they leave the factory. The built ZL1s are going to be exposed to a bunch of bad environmental crap until they are PDI'd

Happy_Dan · 03-17-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueclyde

Unbelievable build thread. I got lost in that thing. Great stories and pics and detail. Great dog. Awesome pics from "the rig." Awesome car. Great passion. I like it all!

Awesome! I can't wait to see ZL1 threads like this one. Once we get past this current situation, it will be exciting in a most positive way.

You have a great thread there and the detail and the care in putting it together has to be a sign of the detail and care taken in putting the car together. Well documented! I can imagine what you have of your own for documentation.

Kudos!

2012ZL1 · 03-17-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueclyde

Sources from GM have been quoted regarding the production hault. Try Google. Plus, all trackers have said the "data" suggests production has in fact stopped. No orders have progressed. No VIN's have been reported. Not speculation... Please stop trying to make an issue out of this. I thought I was trying to help you out.

My order progressed...

*SSE 4 2SS* · 03-17-2012, 09:16 AM

Happy Dan,

Just don't talk too much about it around my wife.... lol, she's actually been awesome... At first she was why???... and then was ok, and then she was "cool," and then it was "dammmmnnnnnnn... I like it..." the great thing is she has no desire to drive it, though I've offered... She wouldn't before the build... and certainly wont now... though she loves to ride in it....

2012ZL1 · 03-17-2012, 09:20 AM

Any magazine that snubs the ZL1 are idiots. period. Second, I will not subscribe to any magazine that chooses to do so. period. And I subscribe to a number of magazines.

03-17-2012, 08:23 AM	#1121
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,494	Drake... Did you get a chance to read the writeup by Dragoneye... He mentioned the magazine writers (how some of them got up immediately after dinner and left rather than taking advantage of the oppurtunity to ask some very high level engineers questions face to face...) and I had reaffirmed to me that you have to take what they say with a grain of salt... Like anyone else, they have their favorites and nothing else compares. Some of them are objective and write meaningful and informative articles, other look for dirt... It's a crap shoot at best... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

03-17-2012, 08:38 AM	#1129
Drake Heminger Drives: 2014 Stingray Z51 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 2,951	My dealership said the letter they got said mid march to late march and customer service said the only thing they got was late first quarter __________________ "What a coincidence, Drake returns and brings brand new ZL1's with him...." - CAM....ZL1

03-17-2012, 09:16 AM	#1133
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,494	Happy Dan, Just don't talk too much about it around my wife.... lol, she's actually been awesome... At first she was why???... and then was ok, and then she was "cool," and then it was "dammmmnnnnnnn... I like it..." the great thing is she has no desire to drive it, though I've offered... She wouldn't before the build... and certainly wont now... though she loves to ride in it.... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

03-17-2012, 09:20 AM	#1134
2012ZL1 CaRaHoLiC Drives: '12 ZL1,67 Cam,68 Biscayne 427 4 sp Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,701	Any magazine that snubs the ZL1 are idiots. period. Second, I will not subscribe to any magazine that chooses to do so. period. And I subscribe to a number of magazines. __________________ 2012 ZL1 2.55 upper, 10" lower pullies, Innovators west billet hub and sfi balancer, solid blower drive isolator, 50 mm idler kit, full length S/S headers no cats, comp cams custom grind cam, comp roller rocker trunion kit, comp push rods,dual valve springs retainers and locks, Injector dynamics ID850 inectors, Rotofab ZL1 cold air kit, Lingenfelter 160 thermostat, Rotofab intercooler reservoir, stock plugs, LS7 90mm throttle body, GTO clutch reservoir mod, my own custom catch can, Tuning by Jannetty, install by me.

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03-17-2012, 08:28 AM	#1123
actireman Drives: 2011 denali hd2500 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: clarkston, mi Posts: 186	It has stopped because they have a problem with a part they are not happy with. They are waiting for the new ones and then they will begin to ship. Not all have the bad part, but they are holding all. They are very tight lipped about what part it is, because if they said it would be all over the internet and then it would be picked apart by everybody. They would have people making mountains out of mole hills. It would be like if they had a stiching problem on the back seats. Everybody when they got their car would be in the back seat looking to make sure it is perfect, and if there was one little thing they would want it replaced. It won't be long and we will have our cars. And no, I'm not going to give a name.

03-17-2012, 08:34 AM	#1127
actireman Drives: 2011 denali hd2500 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: clarkston, mi Posts: 186	Remember, 30% new parts, means new vendors. And also there is a big difference in making a few real good to get the job and then making thousands at the same quality. I'm just glad GM is not letting it just slide thru.

03-17-2012, 08:51 AM	#1130
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	I think that gm as a general practice should use more plastic protection on their cars before they leave the factory. The built ZL1s are going to be exposed to a bunch of bad environmental crap until they are PDI'd