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VRYALT3R3D · 10-29-2013, 05:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=5hiSgO7Jq3I

7:40.

islander033 · 10-29-2013, 05:52 PM

Interesting...

Overflow · 10-29-2013, 06:03 PM

Looking forward to see GM's response to this.

*mlee* · 10-29-2013, 06:08 PM

LMAO... too late... now we have the Z/28...

alex70olds · 10-29-2013, 06:08 PM

Seems a little fishy.

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Originally Posted by SVTP

Ever stumble across something that you're not sure you're supposed to have? Well that's the situation I recently found myself in. A few weeks ago I sent a request to Ford for some footage of the 2013-14 (we're not sure which, not that it makes a difference) SVT Shelby GT500 testing at various tracks. I had planned on putting together a little montage video of the baddest Mustang produced to date. SVT and Ford has always been very accommodating with our media and information requests, and this was no different. However, once the thumb-drive arrived things got really interesting.

Mixed in with the various clips from the various tracks was one that stood out; a full all-out test lap from The Nürburgring. As far as I know, Ford has not released any official 'Ring lap times or footage for the GT500. I have a feeling that this video file may have been included erroneously, but Ford did say I could use everything on the drive. So that leads us to the video above.

I trimmed a little off each end of the file and added a timer. I based the starting and ending points from conversations I've had with various "'Ring-Run Experts". It appears that most timed laps begin at the exit of pit row and ends at the first white stripe after the gantry. That description may sound a bit vague, but it'll all become clear once you watch the video.

By my rough calculations, which are no replacement for proper vBox data, the 2013-14 GT500 ran its 'Ring lap in a bit less than 7:40. Not only is that very impressive; but it also bests the SVT's chief rival, the Chevy Camaro ZL1's 7:41. In fact; it's just a few tics behind GM's purpose-built stripped-out track-car , the Camaro Z/28 and its 7:37.5. However, this is where things get very interesting. While there's really no such thing as an "official" lap time at The Nürburgring, if GM was trying to use the same starting and ending points as most it appears that Chevy may have fudged their numbers ever-so-slightly.

In doing my research on the timing points I took a frame by frame look at GM's Camaro videos. I noticed that with the ZL1 they appeared to start the clock ~6 frames late, but with the Z/28 they stopped the clock ~11 frames early. Both of these instances shaved less than 0.5 seconds off the lap time. Still, I thought it was worth noting. However; as I stated before; producing manufacturer backed 'Ring times is not an exact science, nor are my video based calculations:

*mlee* · 10-29-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alex70olds

Seems a little fishy.

to be exptected from that particular SVT site

islander033 · 10-29-2013, 06:14 PM

Another vid from that site showing a direct comparison.

alex70olds · 10-29-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

to be exptected from that particular SVT site

Yeah, he added the timer and miraculously got a 7:40? And who knows if it was even stock? I guess I am just skeptical naturally lol.

motorhead · 10-29-2013, 06:31 PM

Even if that is a good time, it sure looks like the person driving really had to manhandle the thing to get there.

islander033 · 10-29-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

LMAO... too late... now we have the Z/28...

Tru dat!

Z28 kicks its ass at the ring, plain and simple.

alex70olds · 10-29-2013, 06:37 PM

See this is where putting a "timer" on a video to get a lap time is far from scientific. The video is shot at 30 FPS. I would think that it would have to be played back at exactly 30 FPS to get close to an accurate time. Probably just me though.

SUKXOST · 10-29-2013, 06:40 PM

with 662HP the only way it did better is in the straights. Z28 still WRECKED the GT500.

*mlee* · 10-29-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alex70olds

Yeah, he added the timer and miraculously got a 7:40? And who knows if it was even stock? I guess I am just skeptical naturally lol.

If Ford could have run this time w/ a Vbox it would be broadcast all over the place.

87GNX · 10-29-2013, 06:51 PM

That GT 500 has some mods obviously to the rear end. SLA isn't bad at all, it's not that ancient folks...it does work.

10-29-2013, 05:52 PM	#2
islander033 SLOBRA1 Drives: GT500/Cruze/DMax/Cobra Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Alberta Posts: 595	Interesting... __________________ 2010 GT500 Best ET=10.10 - Best Trap=143.59mph 2003 Turbo Cobra Best ET=8.27 - Best Trap=166.42mph

10-29-2013, 06:03 PM	#3
Overflow Space Shuttle Aficionado Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 30,899 View My Garage	Looking forward to see GM's response to this. __________________

10-29-2013, 06:08 PM	#4
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,490 View My Garage	LMAO... too late... now we have the Z/28... __________________

10-29-2013, 06:37 PM	#11
alex70olds ~~*~~ Drives: 2012 ZL1 #141 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lake Conroe Texas Posts: 911	See this is where putting a "timer" on a video to get a lap time is far from scientific. The video is shot at 30 FPS. I would think that it would have to be played back at exactly 30 FPS to get close to an accurate time. Probably just me though. __________________

10-29-2013, 06:40 PM	#12
SUKXOST Do you even lift, bro? Drives: 2013 1LE Camaro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 3,159 View My Garage	with 662HP the only way it did better is in the straights. Z28 still WRECKED the GT500. __________________ My 1LE (645WHP/597WTQ) build/journal Thread: 1st ever 1LE COTW http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255461

10-29-2013, 06:31 PM	#9
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	Even if that is a good time, it sure looks like the person driving really had to manhandle the thing to get there.

10-29-2013, 06:51 PM	#14
87GNX Drives: Alot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norcalifas Posts: 1,337	That GT 500 has some mods obviously to the rear end. SLA isn't bad at all, it's not that ancient folks...it does work.