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rgrmoreira13 · 05-29-2018, 07:48 PM

I have recently gotten a D1x procharger with a Holley Sniper EFI intake manifold 1050x Injectors and a monster twin disk clutch rated for 1,000 crank HP, and a AEM single nozzle meth kit. (Going to see if I get a dual nozzle in the future.) The pulley in the procharger is 4.25 8 rib. I might want to one day go as low as 3.75
My question is as follows.

How many of you have run a centri supercharger setup with a stock bottom end.

I am really considering just forging the entire engine and doing it right just once. (Rods, Pistons, crank etc.) and then beefing the axle, driveshaft and diff once I am done with the block. Part of me wants to do this route and the other part is yelling at me to just install the damn parts. LMAO

BiggFoot · 05-30-2018, 07:45 AM

I am SBE. Those parts are gonna look nice once installed

JANNETTYRACING · 05-30-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rgrmoreira13

I have recently gotten a D1x procharger with a Holley Sniper EFI intake manifold 1050x Injectors and a monster twin disk clutch rated for 1,000 crank HP, and a AEM single nozzle meth kit. (Going to see if I get a dual nozzle in the future.) The pulley in the procharger is 4.25 8 rib. I might want to one day go as low as 3.75
My question is as follows.

How many of you have run a centri supercharger setup with a stock bottom end.

I am really considering just forging the entire engine and doing it right just once. (Rods, Pistons, crank etc.) and then beefing the axle, driveshaft and diff once I am done with the block. Part of me wants to do this route and the other part is yelling at me to just install the damn parts. LMAO

Very nice I hope you have a Fore Innovations return system on order.

Let us know if we can help.

Ted.

mrimpala02 · 05-30-2018, 09:02 AM

The stock bottom end should hold up just fine as long as you have good fueling and tune.

eLeSthree · 05-30-2018, 09:27 AM

How much power do you plan on making?

My tuner doesnt advise going beyond 750 at the tire.

rgrmoreira13 · 05-30-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Very nice I hope you have a Fore Innovations return system on order.

Let us know if we can help.

Ted.

For now I am going to use the stock fuel system. Should I want to get more power I will change the fuel pump.

rgrmoreira13 · 05-30-2018, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

How much power do you plan on making?

My tuner doesnt advise going beyond 750 at the tire.

I don't want to go that far. My goal was to do 650rwhp. But if I go and forge the bottom end then I will upgrade everything else.

hillshooter · 05-30-2018, 06:45 PM

Send it. It will be fine.

eLeSthree · 05-31-2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rgrmoreira13

I don't want to go that far. My goal was to do 650rwhp. But if I go and forge the bottom end then I will upgrade everything else.

Sounds past tense. You could have hit 650 with the P1sc. Tell us the truth.

What's your real goal?

JANNETTYRACING · 05-31-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rgrmoreira13

For now I am going to use the stock fuel system. Should I want to get more power I will change the fuel pump.

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Originally Posted by rgrmoreira13

I don't want to go that far. My goal was to do 650rwhp. But if I go and forge the bottom end then I will upgrade everything else.

This is how you blow engines, The stock fuel pump with a voltage booster is Done at 550 RWHP.

At a bare minimum you need a ZL-1 fuel pump and fuel pump control module and that will be maxed out at 650 RWHP

If you add a JMS voltage booster you can stretch that to 700 RWHP then you need to move to a Fore system or DSX Auxiliary fuel system.

I hope you take this advice I would hate to see you break and engine.

Ted.

rgrmoreira13 · 05-31-2018, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

This is how you blow engines, The stock fuel pump with a voltage booster is Done at 550 RWHP.

At a bare minimum you need a ZL-1 fuel pump and fuel pump control module and that will be maxed out at 650 RWHP

If you add a JMS voltage booster you can stretch that to 700 RWHP then you need to move to a Fore system or DSX Auxiliary fuel system.

I hope you take this advice I would hate to see you break and engine.

Ted.

I have a 1LE
The ZL1 fuel pump is already in this car. I have a 1LE so most of the stuff in the ZL1 besides the MR and the supercharger are in this car. That is why I was mentioning 650rwhp to begin with.

UBB · 05-31-2018, 10:46 AM

Sorry for the thread jack but Ted, I was told by my tuner that on my tune with the original pulley that came with my Maggie kit, I that could go down one size on the same tune and not run out of fuel. FWIW the kit dyno'd at 520 on 91 pump gas. Does that sound like accurate info without knowing all the particulars?

rgrmoreira13 · 05-31-2018, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Sounds past tense. You could have hit 650 with the P1sc. Tell us the truth.

What's your real goal?

Well for now it is still 650rwhp until I get bored. LOL I got the D1x because it can make up to 1,000 hp but I am not going to go that high. Yet

JANNETTYRACING · 05-31-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rgrmoreira13

I have a 1LE
The ZL1 fuel pump is already in this car. I have a 1LE so most of the stuff in the ZL1 besides the MR and the supercharger are in this car. That is why I was mentioning 650rwhp to begin with.

Stock fuel pump control module commands 42 psi at full throttle, then subtract your boost of 10 psi for example and you can have 32 psi effective fuel pressure.

You need the FPCM and I would recommend a fuel pump voltage booster as well.

Ted.

05-29-2018, 07:48 PM	#1
rgrmoreira13 Drives: 2015 2SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Miami WADE County Posts: 1,127 View My Garage	Stock Bottom End on a Procharger I have recently gotten a D1x procharger with a Holley Sniper EFI intake manifold 1050x Injectors and a monster twin disk clutch rated for 1,000 crank HP, and a AEM single nozzle meth kit. (Going to see if I get a dual nozzle in the future.) The pulley in the procharger is 4.25 8 rib. I might want to one day go as low as 3.75 My question is as follows. How many of you have run a centri supercharger setup with a stock bottom end. I am really considering just forging the entire engine and doing it right just once. (Rods, Pistons, crank etc.) and then beefing the axle, driveshaft and diff once I am done with the block. Part of me wants to do this route and the other part is yelling at me to just install the damn parts. LMAO Attached Images __________________ Specs TSP Stage 2 Boosted Cam 227/235 at 114 LSA Fore Innovation Triple pump staged (Walbro 342 primary and 2x Walbro 450 secondaries) Procharger D1x with a 3.85 pulley ID1050x Injectors Flex Fuel Sensor Monster LT1 Twin Disk Clutch Holley Sniper Efi Intake Manifold NW 103mm Boosted TB 747rwhp at 12psi on E85

05-30-2018, 07:45 AM	#2
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	I am SBE. Those parts are gonna look nice once installed __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

05-30-2018, 09:02 AM	#4
mrimpala02 Drives: Black 2SS RS w/White Stripes Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 775	The stock bottom end should hold up just fine as long as you have good fueling and tune. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS "ChriSStine": Pat G Custom Turbo CamMotion Camshaft \| AGP TT BB Garrett 62/65's \| AGP/Fore Triple Pumps \| ID1700X Injectors \| Alky Control Twin Nozzle Meth \| Custom 3" Exhaust \| 3.27 gear set w/ Tru Trac \| McLeod Twin RXT \| Barton Short Throw Shifter \| 6th Gen ZL1 Wheels \| BMR 1.4" drop springs \| Pfadt rear trailing arms & tie rods \| Installed by Me & Tuned by Pat G

05-30-2018, 09:27 AM	#5
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	How much power do you plan on making? My tuner doesnt advise going beyond 750 at the tire. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

05-30-2018, 06:45 PM	#8
hillshooter Drives: 2015 Camaro SS commemorative Join Date: May 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 425	Send it. It will be fine. __________________ 2015 Camaro SS, LS3 Stroker, PRC heads,CUSTOM CAM. AGP 68/68 with custom Hot and Cold side. Fore triple pumps, Holley terminator X. BMR drag suspension with carlyle brake kit. 15" ET drags and 17" skinnies. ZL1 3.73 gears , aluminum driveshaft. TH400 with circle D converter.

05-31-2018, 10:46 AM	#12
UBB Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Bismarck Posts: 572 View My Garage	Sorry for the thread jack but Ted, I was told by my tuner that on my tune with the original pulley that came with my Maggie kit, I that could go down one size on the same tune and not run out of fuel. FWIW the kit dyno'd at 520 on 91 pump gas. Does that sound like accurate info without knowing all the particulars?