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Dexman1349 · 11-13-2014, 04:56 PM

This is the front strut (note it does NOT come with springs):

Rear shock:

The mounts that you need to get with the 1LE upgrade (only for rear shock):

I honestly don't know the difference between the stock SS and the 1LE mounts. All I know is that they are relatively cheap ($40 each)

X25 · 11-13-2014, 05:12 PM

Alright now it makes sense. My Z/28 suspension kit came with whole shocks and struts including their mounts, which is why I was confused.

camarosspower · 11-13-2014, 05:38 PM

Ok so that is all that I would need just the mounts for the rear 1le shocks? The front are the same correct? What about an adapter for the rear end links?

Dexman1349 · 11-13-2014, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosspower

Ok so that is all that I would need just the mounts for the rear 1le shocks? The front are the same correct? What about an adapter for the rear end links?

You would need a FE4 style lower control arm if you are upgrading the rear sway bar. The change from the FE3 to the FE4/5/6 suspensions have completely different rear sway bars, end links, and new connection points to the LCA's. You would not, however, have to change the lower control arms to ONLY change the rear shocks.

camarosspower · 11-13-2014, 07:11 PM

What's the price difference between ss and 1le shocks

camarosspower · 11-13-2014, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dexman1349

You would need a FE4 style lower control arm if you are upgrading the rear sway bar. The change from the FE3 to the FE4/5/6 suspensions have completely different rear sway bars, end links, and new connection points to the LCA's. You would not, however, have to change the lower control arms to ONLY change the rear shocks.

So my BMR sway bar won't match up with the 1le shocks?

BMR Sales · 11-14-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by camarosspower

So my BMR sway bar won't match up with the 1le shocks?

You can install 1LE shocks/struts with the FE3 style suspension on the 2010 Camaro without a problem. Dex is just saying that if you were upgrading to the later FE4 suspension system, you would need different (2012+) rear lower control arms, FE4 sway bar end links, and of course an FE4 style sway bar.

JDP Sales · 11-14-2014, 10:46 AM

The only thing that you have to consider when changing to the 1LE struts from a 10-12 are the FRONT endlinks. The 2010-12 V6/SS uses 10mm endlink studs where the 1LE and all 13+ Camaros use 12mm studs.

You'll either need to get endlinks that have a 10mm/12mm combo, Drill out the sway bar holes to fit 12mm studs and use OEM 1LE endlinks or we also have some bushings/sleeves available to take a 10mm stud to a 12mm stud. I suggest going with the DSE endlinks in this case as the factory links with 10mm studs are weak and prone to deflection and breaking with aftermarket sway bars.

Let me know if I can answer any questions.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

BMR Sales · 11-14-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JDP Tyler

The only thing that you have to consider when changing to the 1LE struts from a 10-12 are the FRONT endlinks. The 2010-12 V6/SS uses 10mm endlink studs where the 1LE and all 13+ Camaros use 12mm studs.

You'll either need to get endlinks that have a 10mm/12mm combo, Drill out the sway bar holes to fit 12mm studs and use OEM 1LE endlinks or we also have some bushings/sleeves available to take a 10mm stud to a 12mm stud. I suggest going with the DSE endlinks in this case as the factory links with 10mm studs are weak and prone to deflection and breaking with aftermarket sway bars.

Let me know if I can answer any questions.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

Ah Yes, front end links, forgot about that!!! Not a big deal though, easily adaptable.

JDP Sales · 11-14-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BMR Sales

Ah Yes, front end links, forgot about that!!! Not a big deal though, easily adaptable.

Indeed! Especially if you know you're doing the 1LE strut upgrade in the future. Just go with the SB039 sway bars along with ELK011 and drill out the OEM strut endlink mount to 12mm until you get the 1LE struts.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

Dexman1349 · 11-14-2014, 11:10 AM

Here's a slightly edited picture from here

Both images are of a Camaro rear suspension. The upper one is the 2010-2011 FE3 style suspension and the lower one is the newer FE4 (2012+SS)/FE5 (ZL1)/FE6(1LE). You will see the only major difference between the two are the sway bars, endlinks and where they connect to the LCAs (minor differences between them are mostly limited to bushing types, component sizes, and shock types). The older FE3 attaches "inside" the rear shock/spring assembly whereas the newer FE4/5/6 attaches "outside". The shock/spring assembly attachment points are not changed.

My point in the original post was that you only have to change the LCA's on your 2010-2011 Camaro if you change the sway bars and endlinks to the newer style.

If you are only changing the shocks, the LCA's do not need to change.

camarosspower · 11-14-2014, 02:01 PM

Thanks for all the great replies guys. Just when I thought I was going to get some pretty good used 1le shocks someone beat me to them. Now my other question is should I go ahead and get some shocks from a 2012+ or will I be ok with 2010 ss shocks? Any modifications for those?

Dexman1349 · 11-14-2014, 02:07 PM

You would only need the upgraded mounts with the 1LE shocks. Any other SS shock will mount up without needing to change anything.

camarosspower · 11-14-2014, 02:58 PM

Thanks a lot dexman

11-13-2014, 04:56 PM	#57
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	This is the front strut (note it does NOT come with springs): Rear shock: The mounts that you need to get with the 1LE upgrade (only for rear shock): I honestly don't know the difference between the stock SS and the 1LE mounts. All I know is that they are relatively cheap ($40 each) __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

11-13-2014, 05:12 PM	#58
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	Alright now it makes sense. My Z/28 suspension kit came with whole shocks and struts including their mounts, which is why I was confused. __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

11-14-2014, 11:10 AM	#67
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	Here's a slightly edited picture from here Both images are of a Camaro rear suspension. The upper one is the 2010-2011 FE3 style suspension and the lower one is the newer FE4 (2012+SS)/FE5 (ZL1)/FE6(1LE). You will see the only major difference between the two are the sway bars, endlinks and where they connect to the LCAs (minor differences between them are mostly limited to bushing types, component sizes, and shock types). The older FE3 attaches "inside" the rear shock/spring assembly whereas the newer FE4/5/6 attaches "outside". The shock/spring assembly attachment points are not changed. My point in the original post was that you only have to change the LCA's on your 2010-2011 Camaro if you change the sway bars and endlinks to the newer style. If you are only changing the shocks, the LCA's do not need to change. Attached Images __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

11-14-2014, 02:07 PM	#69
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	You would only need the upgraded mounts with the 1LE shocks. Any other SS shock will mount up without needing to change anything. __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

11-13-2014, 05:38 PM	#59
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Ok so that is all that I would need just the mounts for the rear 1le shocks? The front are the same correct? What about an adapter for the rear end links?

11-13-2014, 07:11 PM	#61
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	What's the price difference between ss and 1le shocks

11-14-2014, 10:46 AM	#64
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	The only thing that you have to consider when changing to the 1LE struts from a 10-12 are the FRONT endlinks. The 2010-12 V6/SS uses 10mm endlink studs where the 1LE and all 13+ Camaros use 12mm studs. You'll either need to get endlinks that have a 10mm/12mm combo, Drill out the sway bar holes to fit 12mm studs and use OEM 1LE endlinks or we also have some bushings/sleeves available to take a 10mm stud to a 12mm stud. I suggest going with the DSE endlinks in this case as the factory links with 10mm studs are weak and prone to deflection and breaking with aftermarket sway bars. Let me know if I can answer any questions. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007

11-14-2014, 02:01 PM	#68
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Thanks for all the great replies guys. Just when I thought I was going to get some pretty good used 1le shocks someone beat me to them. Now my other question is should I go ahead and get some shocks from a 2012+ or will I be ok with 2010 ss shocks? Any modifications for those?

11-14-2014, 02:58 PM	#70
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Thanks a lot dexman