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1SS/LS3 + MRC + MG9 + ZL1 Brakes/Wheels/Tires/Diff/Axles + 3.73 = 1LE | 164 | 62.84% | |
2SS as Starting Point | 55 | 21.07% | |
More Engine Than LS3 Required | 102 | 39.08% | |
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01-31-2012, 09:13 AM | #57 |
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Shane, the 376/480 hp GMPP crate engine is NOT RPO-ready. So smog-testing and production-intended durability testing (GMPP doesn't offer 5/100 warranties) is required...which adds co$t, and time (which further adds co$t as well). But that level of power would be welcomed...
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01-31-2012, 09:58 AM | #58 | |
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01-31-2012, 10:46 AM | #59 | |
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again - my question is: SHOULD we build the 1LE Concept (as you see it) or SHOULD WE NOT build the 1LE Concept (as you see it) Otherwise, as you can see, there are too many variables.
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01-31-2012, 10:52 AM | #60 | |
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Will it be LS, LT, 2LT, 1SS, 1LE, 2SS, ZL1? Or ....1SS, 2SS, 1LE, ZL!? Or would it be best suited as a "package" that could be added to, I would think, the 1SS?
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02-01-2012, 10:31 AM | #61 |
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I have a 2010 1SS that I bought with the intention of putting a supercharger on it when it was paid off (which it is). However, with the ZL1 coming out, that muddied the waters and made me believe that I may be ahead to get a new car instead of modifying mine. I can't swing the 50 plus for the ZL1, so my current plan is to sell my car now, and wait a year or two until a (slightly used) ZL1 is at a price point I can handle.
All that said, part of the reason for wanting a new car is that mine just doesn't handle as well on the track as I had hoped. I know there are aftermarket answers for this as well, but none of them is as good as the MRC. I would take an LS3 car with MRC and several of the other ZL1 improvements (gear ratio, brakes) IF it was priced right (which in my mind is low 40s. 1SS trim level is fine for me. I would probably swap the cam myself to up the horsepower, but obviously would prefer it if it had some meaningful bump in horsepower from the factory. So, long story summarized, I would buy a 1LE over the ZL1 if the price point makes sense. |
02-01-2012, 10:35 AM | #62 |
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02-01-2012, 03:56 PM | #63 | |
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I would really love to see the blacked out rear like the SSX & the Hot Wheels hood. These are only cosmetic changes. |
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02-02-2012, 08:30 AM | #64 |
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This poll would indicate a certain desire for something beyond an SS but below the all-conquering ZL1.
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02-02-2012, 02:13 PM | #65 |
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02-02-2012, 09:21 PM | #66 |
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I voted for the #1 choice. But ditch the Magnetic Ride Control. While adjustability and adaptability is nice you can build a car with a conventional suspension that has neutral cornering, no rubber bushing step out, and no wheel hop that represents on a race track.
MRC makes the car heavier, more expensive to buy, and more expensive to own. While there are benefits to MRC, to me it goes against the idea of a spartan track animal. The Camaro has a very rigid chassis and IRS. Build a conventional suspension that shows it off. Real 1LEers will not mind a little more vibration and driveline hum in return for an affordable track ready car. While we are at it keep the stock SS brakes. They do not fade at the track. Let's save a few $$ there too. Also get rid of the roller skates. We can live with a little brake squeal. Next add some light weght 18 inch wheels. Bingo. Keep the MG9 and the stronger axles. The LS3 is fine. Give it better breathing and a little more cam and you are looking at 460 HP easy. Plenty of motor for the track and enough to keep the "Boss" in sight. The LS7 would make the car too expensive for the mild gains over a pumped up LS3. But 1LE really? Don't you mean Z28?
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02-02-2012, 09:38 PM | #67 |
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Here is a thought. To help pay for the cammed, better breathing, LS3 offer it as an option on all SSes. Bet you would sell quite a few.
Are coil overs practical on a production car? You could throw them in the trunk as a dealer installed option.
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02-02-2012, 09:41 PM | #68 |
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Okay I get it. Build it. It is very cool. But can MRC be an option?
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02-02-2012, 09:44 PM | #69 |
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This is exciting. It means something in between an SS and the ZL1 is possible.
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02-02-2012, 09:50 PM | #70 |
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There I changed my sig. Does that put it over the top?
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