01-14-2017, 07:39 PM | #1 |
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Toe specs keep changing
Hey guys I'm needing help. I've done taken it to get alignment done twice and both times it moves out of spec. Under hard throttle the cars rear end feels like it's steering. Mods are Lakewood adjustable toe rods, trailing arms and cradle bushings. Everything was good until I added the cradle bushings but I'm not putting the blame on those. Could it be that now with the bushings everything is being worked harder? I can get on it at half throttle and it's ok but when I go full throttle that's when I'm having the issue. I'm at 600+ whp. Any help would be great.
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01-14-2017, 09:45 PM | #2 |
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Which brand of bushings did you put in? Are the toe rods somehow coming loose?
What toe setting is the alignment shop using for you? I would double check and make sure it is toe IN and not toe out. Toe out would definitely give you that rear steer feeling. |
01-14-2017, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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Toe in was set at .05 but it changes after I go full throttle
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01-15-2017, 08:38 PM | #4 |
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This I what I got when they done the alignment
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01-15-2017, 08:40 PM | #5 |
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This is how much it changed when I went back. Before they adjusted it once again.
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01-15-2017, 08:42 PM | #6 |
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do you still have FE3 rear anti sway bar? if so, you need to do the upgrade to FE4 before you will know. the FE3 suspension is absolute crap junk. you cannot make it work right. with extra HP like you have, its just going to walk worse.
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01-15-2017, 08:44 PM | #7 |
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This is what I left with but I'm pretty sure it moved again. The car is extremely slippery at full throttle
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01-15-2017, 11:47 PM | #8 |
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Are they adjusting the camber and toe at the same time? The rear specs of these cars have to be adjusted together otherwise they can change.
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01-16-2017, 05:05 AM | #9 |
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Well the guy didn't even mess with the camber because he said it was maxed out already.
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01-16-2017, 05:08 AM | #10 |
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Do you think this is the reason behind why the toe changes?
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01-16-2017, 07:52 AM | #11 |
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Sway bars don't change toe. You have loose bolts somewhere or an out of spec bushings allowing things to move. Neither one can be diagnosed over the internet.
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01-16-2017, 08:10 AM | #12 |
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Just asking for suggestions on what would change toe. If anything else besides the toe rods
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01-16-2017, 08:21 AM | #13 |
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Cradle bushings and toe rod bushings and bolts are where I'd start. The cradle can shift so don't rule them out until you've physically confirmed they're ruled out. Especially since that's the last thing you changed and now you have the issue. What torque specs did you or the shop use? What brand bushings? BMR sold the wrong size bushings or they deformed to a few people that caused this as well.
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01-16-2017, 09:07 AM | #14 |
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I didn't torque them but I did tightend them up real good. They sitting flush with the cradle. I did notice that I don't have the D shaped thread bolts on the toe rods. They look like offset washers
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