09-02-2012, 04:45 PM | #2017 |
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"Not-so-far departure from the current LS family" and a smallish HP increase might not rule out variable valve timing , , ,
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The costs of a tweaked motor, aside from something like a revised air intake, exhaust revision or a slightly more aggressive cal delivering 10 to 20 HP, or an exotic motor for a 18 month production run are mostly likely the end of that discussion before it starts. I may be wrong, but the only ready to go motor for a Z/28 is the LS7. It is our last best hope. The C7 2014 Vette with the 5.5 DI debuts sometime in the second half of 2013. I believe they will let the C7 run with the performance version of the DI technology for at least the first model year pushing the debut of a 2015 DI Camaro into late 2014. That would have a DI powered Z/28 available for maybe 8 months? An LS7 powered Z/28 could be released in the second quarter of 2013 when the Corvette will no longer be using it. That gives the Z/28 a solid 18 month run to the launch of the 2016 Camaro and allows LS7 production run a year longer. With all the tooling and and development costs depreciated out, LS7 production for a production car should be profitable at a reasonable cost. The sticking points are EPA and CAFE. |
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...what he said..................
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09-03-2012, 04:33 PM | #2023 |
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To me it's the application that's important. They could even reduce horsepower if it helped MPG improve signifigantly. It would have to be more of an increase than what we see with the L99. Horsepower increase is great for Z28 but not really needed in an SS, if that's going to be the volume performance model for the sixth gen.
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The V6 is more than comparable with the base 1Gen Camaro. Naming the V8 an SS makes sense. And now you can add a 1LE package to it making it a very very capable car. V6, SS, SS/1LE, Z28 & ZL1 perfect upgradeability for the Camaro enthusiast!
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Guys, I don't mind the LS7 thought of use, I just keep saying that I guess I am jealous that the Camaro gets the left overs it seems. Would an LS7 powered Camaro be amazing? Easy answer, yes! Why does the Corvette get all the fun? Why should we have to wait for the Corvette to be done using an engine so us Z/28 hopefuls get a slice of the pie? My other question has been, why can other auto makers squeeze out comparable HP with 5 liters to our 6.2L or 7L with only 5? If the reason GM decides not to do a 5th Gen Z/28 I will be really disappointed..if it is cost of the LS7 that doesn't make the car marketable in their eyes, then I say do without, but give me a motor in its place with some new tech that is spread out over many other lines and regular production and let it have at least 475HP NA!
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Look at the glass half full...we get the Corvette engine(s) in the Camaro!
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As far as I'm concerned, the character of the Z/28 softened a little when SCCA allowed the manufacturers to derive their 5.0 liters from engines of larger displacement and Chevy went straight to the 350 for production. Sure, it was a better daily driver and arguably more flexible out on the track that way. But it wasn't the same. Could a confluence between the Z/28's original makeup and the upcoming CAFE pressures possibly happen??? Norm |
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