People With SuperChips Tuners for the Camaro SS.

[thenaz]

Black LS3
I do not think that any computer programming with a "Tuner" is going to stop the "CAGS" from working. I believe you will have to buy, for around $30, a plug in adaptor that bypasses the relay on the manual transmission. If you do, the "Skip Shift" light will still come on but the relay will not block your shift to 2nd or 3rd. I put one on mine the day the dealer got my car and had to show them where it went. I had one previously installed on my 2001 vette, so I was ready for it on my new Camaro.

(Your skip shift is working if you can't go to 2nd or 3rd from 1st while at any easy pace)

[06MonteSS]

Originally Posted by thenaz

Black LS3
I do not think that any computer programming with a "Tuner" is going to stop the "CAGS" from working. I believe you will have to buy, for around $30, a plug in adaptor that bypasses the relay on the manual transmission. If you do, the "Skip Shift" light will still come on but the relay will not block your shift to 2nd or 3rd. I put one on mine the day the dealer got my car and had to show them where it went. I had one previously installed on my 2001 vette, so I was ready for it on my new Camaro.

(Your skip shift is working if you can't go to 2nd or 3rd from 1st while at any easy pace)

completely not true...

the Diablo Predator and Trinity BOTH allow you to completely disable the CAGS...
in the actual tune file, it's a simple on/off setting.. 1 = on, 0 = off...

using the predator or trinity, depending on the vehicle - CAGS is automatically disabled when you install one of the diablo tunes, or you can go into Modify Tune > CAGS, and select "Off"... then install your change and you're good to go.

no need for those skip-shift-eliminators at all...

[Black LS3]

Originally Posted by DJ-Silver 2SS

I have the original camaro edition tuner from superchips, as my car was one of their test cars. I have had no issues with the tuner. It works great. RWHP gains were in the area of 15-18 hp with no other modifications or parts additions.

DJ-Silver 2SS,...

Hey DJ-Silver 2SS, So i take it that you've setup your Car to have the Skip-Shift Disabled correct?

Do you still get the Display on your Dash that tells you to Skip to 4th Gear?

I sent Scott@SuperChips a member of this site a P.M. as well as the Tech Support for SC an email Friday night but I figured that they were normal people and had weekends off since I havent heard back from either one of them yet,...

Sunday I think I'm just going to try and Re-Program the car again and see what happens.

OH,... BTW if your wondering what does happen when the Display get shown on my Dash,...

It wont allow me to shift gears (Shift In To 2nd Gear) right away but if I just keep the clutch in and wait a couple or few seconds then it'll let me do it,... I've never tried to force it in to 2nd or 3rd.

I think I'll try and re-install the programmer on Sunday and see what happens but as of right now how can I even trust that the car even got tuned at this point without being able to Dyno it to see some solid numbers if you know what I mean.

[Black LS3]

Well today, Sunday I reprogrammed my car and this time when I got to the Skip-Shift selection I selected Enabled, Then I went out driving and when I pulled away from a Red Light getting ready to change gears in to second gear the damn thing still wanted me to shift in to 4th gear, Not allowing me to shift in to 2nd gear right away.

So right now I just dont know if the car is being programmed or not at this point. I just dont know if I trust it or not.

I'm going to send SC another email letting them know of the new results and wait back to hear what they have to say.

[Black LS3]

Well,... I've been talking with Rich at SC and he tells me that when you get to the section where your setting up the Skip-Shift on the SC Tuner you are suppose to select "Disable".

This morning I went and did an update again on my Cortex 2950 and Re-Programmed my car once again and then took my car out for a Drive.

I'm still getting the Display on my Dash asking me to Skip Gears from 1st to 4th Gear and the 2 times that it did it the display was gone before i had the chance to change to 2nd gear.

To Anyone With A SC Tuner That Has Disabled Skip-Shift....

Do You or Do You Not Get the Skip-Shift Display on your Dashboard After Disabling the Skip-Shift on Your Car?

Your Information would be very much appreciated.

[DSteck]

Originally Posted by thenaz

Black LS3
I do not think that any computer programming with a "Tuner" is going to stop the "CAGS" from working. I believe you will have to buy, for around $30, a plug in adaptor that bypasses the relay on the manual transmission. If you do, the "Skip Shift" light will still come on but the relay will not block your shift to 2nd or 3rd. I put one on mine the day the dealer got my car and had to show them where it went. I had one previously installed on my 2001 vette, so I was ready for it on my new Camaro.

(Your skip shift is working if you can't go to 2nd or 3rd from 1st while at any easy pace)

It can be turned off with a lot of various software. With HP Tuners or EFI Live, for example, you set the enable and disable speed to 255mph or so, effectively eliminating the set criteria from ever being experienced. It gets rid of the light on the dash, too, which the clip-in eliminators don't do.

[Black LS3]

Originally Posted by DSteck

It can be turned off with a lot of various software. With HP Tuners or EFI Live, for example, you set the enable and disable speed to 255mph or so, effectively eliminating the set criteria from ever being experienced. It gets rid of the light on the dash, too, which the clip-in eliminators don't do.

Hey DSteck,...

I checked out both of those Tuners/Software Programs and wow,.. They seem pretty in-depth and seem like they do alot it's probably a bit more than what I'm wanting tho,...

I just can't believe that no one owns a SC Tuner here or no one has replied letting me know if they've used the Skip-Shift and what their results were.

Hopefully someone will pop in and let me know what happened with them,... I just might have to go searching myself to see if anyone owns a SC Tunder and send them a P.M. or something.

Thanks for stopping by and pointing out those Programs for me.

[DSteck]

Originally Posted by Black LS3

Hey DSteck,...

I checked out both of those Tuners/Software Programs and wow,.. They seem pretty in-depth and seem like they do alot it's probably a bit more than what I'm wanting tho,...

I just can't believe that no one owns a SC Tuner here or no one has replied letting me know if they've used the Skip-Shift and what their results were.

Hopefully someone will pop in and let me know what happened with them,... I just might have to go searching myself to see if anyone owns a SC Tunder and send them a P.M. or something.

Thanks for stopping by and pointing out those Programs for me.

HP Tuners and EFI Live aren't really meant for people to just grab a canned tune and throw it in... it's meant for full customization really.

[2010 SSRS]

Nice

[Black LS3]

Well,...

Here's a VERY Disappointing Update that I just received from the SC Tech Support.

It seems that there is a Big Huge Fricken Bug with the SC Tunner Programs.

After over a Week of Troubleshooting this is finally the email that I receive from Superchips.

Hello Jim,

We do not have an eta. Debugging is just one of those things that you cannot say how long it will take.

We propose this – Bring your vehicle up to us for a few days – this will allow us to fix a in our hands problem. It would be far easier for us to correct this instead of trying to duplicate it.

Our only other options are to wait for the fix – no eta (Could take a few months) OR return to the place of purchase.

I apologize for the inconvenience but trading for a flashpaq will not solve the problem.

Please let us know which way you would like to proceed with this.

Bring the vehicle to us for a few days – return to the place of purchase – wait for fix, no eta.

Issue Tracking: ID = XXXXX

Thanks,
Sonnie Mellott
Technical Support
407-585-7000

Well needless to say,... I'll be returning my Cortex Tuner to where I bought it from for a full refund.

After installing the tuner I could never get the Skip-Shift to work properly, I also Could Not Tell Any Difference in the performance in the Car after the install so without the Skip-Shift working I could Never really Trust that the car was even getting programmed to begin with,...

This isnt the first SC Tuner I've owned, It's Not Even the First Cortex Tuner that I've owned, I've been using SC Tuners since they were only a Chip that you used to plug in to your PCM and every vehicle that I used this on I could always tell a difference in the vehicle performance after being installed but with this one I felt nothing, No Difference hence the reason for returning it.

I dont know if it's because the Camaro has so much power to begin with and whats another 15HP on top of the stock 426HP plus my upgrades already that I didnt feel the difference or not but since the Skip-Shift wasnt working, I just couldnt Trust it and I think the only way to ever tell if it was working or not was to have the Vehicle Dyno'ed.

SuperChips make a Great product so I'm very surprised to see something like this happen, I wish i could afford the 4-5 Hour Trip North to them and a few nights in a Hotel somewhere but the extra added cost isnt worth it to me.

I would keep the Tuner if they would have said that it would only take a Few days or even a week or two (Because of their 30 Day Return Policy) to resolve the problem but to wait 2 or 3 Months for them to finally getting around to fixing it is just crazy and to tell you the truth,... Not the kind of Tech Support I Expected.

Black LS3
A.K.A. Jim

[eggydoo]

Bringing this back to life.

Having the same issues with mine...they said not many have reported this issue. I think its mainly due to the fact not many people with LS3's have this tuner.

[Brutus1]

SuperChips Flashpaq, K&N Typhoon CAI,Pypes axle back Exhaust.
Performance Tune with 93 octane,all limitors disabled or raised & torque managememt set @ 125%. Bad Ass