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Old 09-23-2009, 06:03 AM   #127
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This is like a history for me. I know nothing about any of this. Good thread!
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:39 AM   #128
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Why? Anything can be a SS, there can only be one Z/28.
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:45 AM   #129
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food for thought! the SS stands for Super Sport and the Z28 stands for what?
Z28 stands for nothing. It was an RPO code, just like Z06.
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:48 AM   #130
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^^^ beat me to it.

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food for thought! the SS stands for Super Sport and the Z28 stands for what?
z28 started as just an rpo code, but it was so popular that they started making actual z28 camaros.

as for the iroc vs z28. They are the same car. The only difference being a sticker. The fastest stock third gens were 1991 z28s.

As for the 4th gens, SS camaros were pretty much a ripoff. They came with bigger wheels and a ram air hood, and the only spoiler both cars should of gotten from the factory in the first place.

Besides that you could get different suspension and a hurst shifter, with some high performace floor mats. Both ran the 1/4 mile the same. Unless you believe the ss hood added 20hp.

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Old 09-23-2009, 06:51 AM   #131
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I just hope they definitely supercharge the 6.2, they should have had a supercharged option for the 2010's.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:11 AM   #132
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I HAVE AN SS-RS .I THINK THE Z/28 IS A SWEET DEAL TO COUNTER THE GT/500.CHEVY ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE THIS VEHICLE BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE CRYING FOUL.WERE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.THIS VEHICLE WILL BE IN THE HIGH 40K DOLLAR TERRATORY.I'LL TAKE MY SS THAT COMES I THE MID TO LOW 30K DOLLAR RANGE AND TAKE THE EXTRY MONEY AN MOD IT TO MY SPECS.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:27 AM   #133
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There is a simple reason. While the SS was historicaly the top of the line street HP car because it was always marketed that way. You could order them as hot as your wallet could handle. The first gen Z/28 was a purpose built option that had only one reason to exist. They had to make it available to the public in order to claim it was a "stock street vehicle" when in reality it was really just a homologated race car.

The Z/28 was part of the "Win on Sunday - Sell on Monday" concept. If you remember the great sucess that Ford had selling the original early-mid 60's Mustang you will understand why we even have a Camaro at all. The Camaro is a direct result of the Ford having the Mustang.

The Mustang was actively competing in SCCA sanctioned road racing events in the 5 liter and under stock class. Chevrolet wanted to sell a lot of Camaros and they needed to win at the Mustang track and at the Chevy showroom. The way to compete against them on a level playing field and show all the potential customers who was the best car to buy was to enter that same 5 Liter class then beat the snot out of the Mustangs. They did exactly that.

The Z/28 is the Champion with the winning sactioned racing heritage against Mustangs to show for it. While the SS has always traditionaly been a top dog street bruiser, it does not have the same race winning heritage as the Z/28.

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Old 09-23-2009, 07:41 AM   #134
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I wondered the same thing since I heard the V8 model was being considered the SS. As has been mentioned, that is usually the top of the line with lower production numbers. You can see a breakdown of production numbers by year/model at - http://www.camaro-registry.com/production.htm . I did a quick scan through the list and see that there were 12 more SS models built than Z-28s in 2001.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:57 AM   #135
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I think one more fact should be revealled, the SS package has been offered for just about every model Chevorlet has to offer. You could get an Impala, Monte Carlo, HHR, Cobalt, fullsize truck, Chevelle/Malibu, Nova/Chevy II or even a Trailblazer with the SS package. However the Z/28 package was only offered in the Camaro!
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:03 AM   #136
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This discussion will go on forever. It all depends on your point of view as to what is important.

Straight line performance or Road Course handling. THat was the basic division between the original Z28 and top of line SS way back at the beginning. (Also the suspensions, engine and other differences.)

It all became very diluted over time due to Fuel Economy and Emissions requirements.

I for one really don't care. It is nice to see the Z28 come back. Will I buy one, no.

I bought my 2SS and am happy with that. I don't need the mega performance of the Z28. For those that do, enjoy the ride when it hits the streets.

THere are several books on the History of the Camaro that exist. I would suggest that the uninitiated would check those out and do some personal research on the History of the Camaro. (Yeah that means getting off of the computer and doing some good old fashioned reading.)
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:11 AM   #137
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I think one more fact should be revealled, the SS package has been offered for just about every model Chevorlet has to offer. You could get an Impala, Monte Carlo, HHR, Cobalt, fullsize truck, Chevelle/Malibu, Nova/Chevy II or even a Trailblazer with the SS package. However the Z/28 package was only offered in the Camaro!
LOL dont forget the z24 Cavalier and the z26 beretta and the z34 monte carlo.
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:17 AM   #138
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Bring on the Z28!
My SS will outrun it by then and I will not need to upgrade.

Just me thinking out loud.... :o)
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:17 AM   #139
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Why? Anything can be a SS, there can only be one Z/28.
DING DING and GM did just that (Malibu, Impala (V6), Cobalt, HHR, Equinox)

Long live the Z/28
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:25 AM   #140
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I dont get why people get butthurt over GM throwing SS on everything. They have done it forever.

Funny that people knock the cobalt all the time too. Its probably one of the fastest ss cars gm has made. Infact it was only 2 seconds slower than the Camaro SS at the Nurburgring. Which puts on on par with an automatic c5 Corvette.

Not to shabby. Given the styling is not my taste, but bang for the buck is there.
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