Is the V6 Consisdered a muscle car?

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by mike25

The v6 nor the v8 truely fall in the muscle class. That title belongs to the old hot rods. Today's camaros are a new age sports car

that may be true, but still they are the closest thing we have to the muscle cars of the day

[mike25]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

that may be true, but still they are the closest thing we have to the muscle cars of the day

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades...they aren't in the class , nor is the v6. Plain and simple, end of story. After that, it becomes a pissing contest amongst v6 and v8 owners of the gen 5 camaro, in which v8 owners seem to really have to piss alot.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

I don't see this thread living much longer!

But, a good idea for a new thread may be "when did the modern muscle ear begin?" My vote would be 1986 with the Buick Regal GN and 1987 with the GNX.

[Sneeks20]

Originally Posted by mike25

Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades...they aren't in the class , nor is the v6. Plain and simple, end of story. After that, it becomes a pissing contest amongst v6 and v8 owners of the gen 5 camaro, in which v8 owners seem to really have to piss alot.

[Sneeks20]

This weeks episode of Jersey Shore will be crazy.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by Sneeks20

This weeks episode of Jersey Shore will be crazy.

ya ronnie is going all out

[2010 SS RS]

Ok after a ton of research of clubs, societies, and car shows the consensus is that Muscle cars and that class was from 1964 to 1974....Period.

Amazingly enough it appears that most of our Camaros would actually be entered into a Hot Rod Class if they have been modified from factory specs. This was a real surprise to me...As my vision of a Hot Rod is not really a Camaro but that is exactly where we would end up showing at major national car shows. I guess we are going to need a bunch more chrome..lol

Stock versions would just be shown in the Late model class.

So if the SS's are not a muscle car then certainly the v6 are not either.

Oh to be living in such a place of non descript limbo...

Edit: Oh and we have too many seats and too much weight for Sports Car division.

[Sneeks20]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Ok after a ton of research of clubs, societies, and car shows the consensus is that Muscle cars and that class was from 1964 to 1974....Period.

Amazingly enough it appears that most of our Camaros would actually be entered into a Hot Rod Class if they have been modified from factory specs. This was a real surprise to me...As my vision of a Hot Rod is not really a Camaro but that is exactly where we would end up showing at major national car shows. I guess we are going to need a bunch more chrome..lol

Stock versions would just be shown in the Late model class.

So if the SS's are not a muscle car then certainly the v6 are not either.

Oh to be living in such a place of non descript limbo...

Edit: Oh and we have too many seats and too much weight for Sports Car division.

Ok, so what are they then, pony cars? Can i say i have a fast pony car without all this comotion?

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

MikeSS Give it up....these guys with Pony cars will never admit they dont have a Muscle Car. They base their claim to fame on HP comparisons to old 64 to 72 cars rather than a tried and true standard set forth by National organizatons for use in Car shows and competitions. For those that awknowledge that their is absolutely nothing wrong with the Pony Car class. And that the Camaro is clearly at or near the top in that class today. For those that purchased the upgraded Performance product and are in the Muscle Car class.
I for one would rather be at the very pinnacle of my class than at the very very bottom one that it does not belong in.

For the guys that want to base their class on HP...Post up the class standards that you are basing this on...Please.!

This is not rocket science....Google it "Definition of a Muscle Car" Duh!

PS: Mods do not cause a car to change original classification either...Just sayin.

Dont believe any of this...Go out and try and enter your car in a real car show sometime and see what the judges have to say. Maybe you can convince the guys at a cars and coffee show or one at a Sonic resteraunt but you wont convince the judges at a Good Guys event or similar one.

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Ok after a ton of research of clubs, societies, and car shows the consensus is that Muscle cars and that class was from 1964 to 1974....Period.

Amazingly enough it appears that most of our Camaros would actually be entered into a Hot Rod Class if they have been modified from factory specs. This was a real surprise to me...As my vision of a Hot Rod is not really a Camaro but that is exactly where we would end up showing at major national car shows. I guess we are going to need a bunch more chrome..lol

Stock versions would just be shown in the Late model class.

So if the SS's are not a muscle car then certainly the v6 are not either.

Oh to be living in such a place of non descript limbo...

Edit: Oh and we have too many seats and too much weight for Sports Car division.

Okay, now I'm totaly confused...

[camaroitalia]

i consider the v6 a pony car

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Okay, now I'm totaly confused...

Yeah I am an idiot...the first one was just pointing out that for example if you took a 1969 Camaro and modified it by putting mods on it it would never be upclasified to a muscle car. Only the performance version would have met that criteria. The second one was after doing a ton of searching on car show sponsors and auto sociaties and determining how they classify our cars. Mine is heavily modified and thus would qualify for the Hot Rod division. However if it was left stock it would have been shown and judged in the late model class. This was from like 5 of the major national auto shows on their registration pages and rules for entry. No real difference was given between the v8 and the v6 thus a heavily modified v6 would also be in the same Hot Rod division.

The one thing that was abundatly clear and also was pointed out by many of the fellas here is that Muscle cars were only cars built between 1964 and 1974 without exception. No ifs ands or buts. Sports cars were not limited by model year but had to be considered light, and have only two seats.

Hope that help explain myself better..But the fact of the matter is that the more i researched the subject the more my feeling changed. I kind of felt the SS was a muscle car...but I was totally officially wrong.

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by Sneeks20

Ok, so what are they then, pony cars? Can i say i have a fast pony car without all this comotion?

Heck I think you can call it anything you want. Just according to the experts and or if you were to enter it in a car show it would NOT be in the Muscle Car Class or the Pony Car Class as those are reserved for Model Year Specific versions.

The original question of the OP was Is the V6 a muscle car? My opinion is now no..but neither is the V8.

That is the unnamed limbo I was referring to.....We dont really have a cool name to our classes like they had back in the day.

God knows I dont want to show in the Hot Rod division as I would get my ars kicked by all the awesome chrome modified cars and rods out there...but that is where I would be placed should I enter one.

[mikeSS]

who could debate a guy with almost 800 HP

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

I don't buy the statement that muscle cars are from the 60's to 70's only. These new cars are NEWera muscle. They are different than back in the day, but they still exude that muscle look and sound. By "definition" maybe they don't qualify. Doesn't matter to me. Sound and stance tells me different.