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RKCamaro13 · 07-18-2020, 09:52 PM

I know asking for opinions on a forum can sometimes be dangerous, but here it goes anyway.

I'm looking to add a Magnuson 2300 to my car pretty soon and wanted to get some input on the setup I was planning on.

I'm looking at the Magnuson blower with 1:1 cog setup. I'd also add a methanol kit just for safety and peace of mind, not looking to use to make a ton more power. Was thinking either Alky or Prometh with a trunk tank. Alky seems to be the most popular and proven, but Prometh seems to have a little better fit and finish in terms of fittings and is a little easier on the wallet (not trying to find the cheapest options, but not trying to break the bank either).

I know I'd have to upgrade the fuel system as well, but this is perhaps where I have the most questions. I was thinking of doing a ZL1 fuel pump with ADM FPCM, but I'm not sure if this is enough, don't really want to add a BAP. Looking to make somewhere around 600-625 RWHP. Also, would the injectors that come in the Magnuson kit be sufficient? I believe it comes with LS9 injectors which are 59 or 60 lbs I think. Or would I need to get a larger injector, 850s?

Any advice would be appreciated.

davidscamaro · 07-18-2020, 10:23 PM

Using meth will lower fuel demand, aside that the zl1 pump /mod fpcm can do 600whp-650whp with no bap if your tuner knows to for mod fpcm tune to zl1 tune on the adm fpcm

Vegas Bound · 07-18-2020, 10:31 PM

I made 659 whp with a LSA supercharger, ZL1 fuel pump and ADM FPCM and 65 lb injectors at 85% on 93 octane. No BAP necessary.

Forget the alky and go e85. Add an aux pump to the ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM and go to 1300 injectors.

RKCamaro13 · 07-19-2020, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

I made 659 whp with a LSA supercharger, ZL1 fuel pump and ADM FPCM and 65 lb injectors at 85% on 93 octane. No BAP necessary.

Forget the alky and go e85. Add an aux pump to the ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM and go to 1300 injectors.

Don't really want to go e85, very few gas stations around me have it. I don't want to worry about finding an e8f pump when traveling either.

Vegas Bound · 07-19-2020, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RKCamaro13

Don't really want to go e85, very few gas stations around me have it. I don't want to worry about finding an e8f pump when traveling either.

Flex fuel.

Greenhornet2 · 07-21-2020, 07:34 AM

I don't think you need meth to be safe, IMO it makes things less safe as you take away fuel to run it, then if you have a failure you are lean, and boom. I tuned on 93, now I run 16oz of Klotz for safety. If you tune a car on 93, then just put meth injection on top of it you will actually reduce power. If going to 650whp I would probably add a BAP. I was at 600whp without it, 700whp now with the JMS and my fuel pressure is good. I have larger injectors than you are talking though. Might just get the bigger injectors if I were you.

Yellow 1 · 07-21-2020, 08:58 AM

If you don't want to run meth, spend a fortune on a bespoke fuel delivery system and have the worry about high IAT's then I recommend you go Maggi Heartbeat 2.3L blower kit. Utilise a ZL1 fuelling system. Mine's making a solid 700hp with that kit, some long tubes, some decent heads and a factory cam. Drives like a *****cat til you get on it. Install looks like a factory fit, great well-engineered kit. Options with pulleys and ID1050 squirters to push it further if needed but for the street (here in Yewkay) 700 is enuff.

Vegas Bound · 07-21-2020, 09:51 AM

POMEs love this word bespoke.

Yellow 1 · 07-21-2020, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

POMEs love this word bespoke.

Yeah - a bit ye Olde England - sorry!

Juiced1 · 07-22-2020, 08:40 AM

600rwhp is pretty easy to obtain with a supercharger. You can easily get there with out meth or E. My question is do you have specs on your cam? Is it a roots style blower? With a 3400rpm stall a roots blower might not be the best choice.

Athletics101 · 07-22-2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RKCamaro13

Don't really want to go e85, very few gas stations around me have it. I don't want to worry about finding an e8f pump when traveling either.

Like Vegas said, do the flex fuel. It’s not even that much to throw into the cost of the kit, and will add a significant amount of power. You won’t have to worry about finding it since you can travel on 91/93. When your in the city tho, fill up on E. I have a vendor about an hour away I go pick up a 55 gal drum from. Since my car only need E 50ish to make the added power.

abshire1006 · 09-29-2020, 08:10 AM

I’m running a Maggie 2300,3.4 pully night fury cam, zl1 fuel pump, 65 psi fast injectors, 93 pump gas making 619 jp and 590 tq, my car has 91600 miles on it, only issue I have had is clutch and axles, don’t need meth injection unless you plan on turning it up. I plan on doing meth soon, cuz like you e85 is hard to come by in louisiana, and I daily my camaro, it’s a fun little set up.

eLeSthree · 09-29-2020, 12:13 PM

I think the cog is over kill for 600. There was a guy who recently ran the heartbeat on a forged 376. Pretty sure he made 900ish with just the regular pulley type.

Wish he would have followed up on his thread. It was a very nice build.

07-18-2020, 09:52 PM	#1
RKCamaro13 Drives: 2011 Red 2SSRS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 693	Opinions for Magnuson Setup I know asking for opinions on a forum can sometimes be dangerous, but here it goes anyway. I'm looking to add a Magnuson 2300 to my car pretty soon and wanted to get some input on the setup I was planning on. I'm looking at the Magnuson blower with 1:1 cog setup. I'd also add a methanol kit just for safety and peace of mind, not looking to use to make a ton more power. Was thinking either Alky or Prometh with a trunk tank. Alky seems to be the most popular and proven, but Prometh seems to have a little better fit and finish in terms of fittings and is a little easier on the wallet (not trying to find the cheapest options, but not trying to break the bank either). I know I'd have to upgrade the fuel system as well, but this is perhaps where I have the most questions. I was thinking of doing a ZL1 fuel pump with ADM FPCM, but I'm not sure if this is enough, don't really want to add a BAP. Looking to make somewhere around 600-625 RWHP. Also, would the injectors that come in the Magnuson kit be sufficient? I believe it comes with LS9 injectors which are 59 or 60 lbs I think. Or would I need to get a larger injector, 850s? Any advice would be appreciated. __________________ MPD1 Z Force hood, 1LE splitter, ZL1 rockers and diffuser, Heritage grille, Sparks Restorations emblems, Magnuson Supercharger, ID850 Injectors, Alky Methanol Kit, Livernois Fuel Pump Roto-Fab CAI, SW long tube headers, CNC ported throttle body, High flow cats, Lethal Racing Prowler Cam, LS3 conversion, Yank 3400 Stall, Corsa 3" cat back exhaust, RX Catch Can, BMR Suspension, BC Coilovers, Slotted and Cross-drilled rotors, Custom Interior.

07-18-2020, 10:23 PM	#2
davidscamaro Drives: 2010 SS/RS M6 BIG cam Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: McDonald's DT Posts: 857	Using meth will lower fuel demand, aside that the zl1 pump /mod fpcm can do 600whp-650whp with no bap if your tuner knows to for mod fpcm tune to zl1 tune on the adm fpcm __________________ BIG cam ...... 305 45 18 Mickys ...... BMR suspensions

07-21-2020, 07:34 AM	#6
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	I don't think you need meth to be safe, IMO it makes things less safe as you take away fuel to run it, then if you have a failure you are lean, and boom. I tuned on 93, now I run 16oz of Klotz for safety. If you tune a car on 93, then just put meth injection on top of it you will actually reduce power. If going to 650whp I would probably add a BAP. I was at 600whp without it, 700whp now with the JMS and my fuel pressure is good. I have larger injectors than you are talking though. Might just get the bigger injectors if I were you. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

07-21-2020, 08:58 AM	#7
Yellow 1 Grumpy Grey-haired Guy Drives: Camaro, Corvette & Merc C300(daily) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: South Warwickshire, UK. Posts: 806 View My Garage	If you don't want to run meth, spend a fortune on a bespoke fuel delivery system and have the worry about high IAT's then I recommend you go Maggi Heartbeat 2.3L blower kit. Utilise a ZL1 fuelling system. Mine's making a solid 700hp with that kit, some long tubes, some decent heads and a factory cam. Drives like a *****cat til you get on it. Install looks like a factory fit, great well-engineered kit. Options with pulleys and ID1050 squirters to push it further if needed but for the street (here in Yewkay) 700 is enuff. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------

09-29-2020, 08:10 AM	#12
abshire1006 Drives: 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Louisiana Posts: 35	I’m running a Maggie 2300,3.4 pully night fury cam, zl1 fuel pump, 65 psi fast injectors, 93 pump gas making 619 jp and 590 tq, my car has 91600 miles on it, only issue I have had is clutch and axles, don’t need meth injection unless you plan on turning it up. I plan on doing meth soon, cuz like you e85 is hard to come by in louisiana, and I daily my camaro, it’s a fun little set up. __________________ 2012 SS, Magnuson supercharger, leathel racing night fury cam, ported throttle body, long tube headers,ACT twin disk clutch, BMR suspension, 620 RWHP 580 ftp 11.8 @121 1/4 mile time on 295/35/20 nitto nt555g2 tires

07-18-2020, 10:31 PM	#3
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	I made 659 whp with a LSA supercharger, ZL1 fuel pump and ADM FPCM and 65 lb injectors at 85% on 93 octane. No BAP necessary. Forget the alky and go e85. Add an aux pump to the ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM and go to 1300 injectors.

07-21-2020, 09:51 AM	#8
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	POMEs love this word bespoke.

07-22-2020, 08:40 AM	#10
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	600rwhp is pretty easy to obtain with a supercharger. You can easily get there with out meth or E. My question is do you have specs on your cam? Is it a roots style blower? With a 3400rpm stall a roots blower might not be the best choice.

09-29-2020, 12:13 PM	#13
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	I think the cog is over kill for 600. There was a guy who recently ran the heartbeat on a forged 376. Pretty sure he made 900ish with just the regular pulley type. Wish he would have followed up on his thread. It was a very nice build. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...