[E.T.]

So the V6 as tested was $38K? That's crazy. Also, I see they added cylinder deactivation. Another WTF? All I can say is, my 5th gen is in no danger of being sold. These prices are a bit ridiculous.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...pper/74362200/

[ChefBorOzzy]

That's pretty much what you can get an Ecoboost Mustang up to. I think MT's tester was 36-37k.. Just don't get all the freaking options?

Why is cylinder deactivation a "WTF"?

[bdavies11]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Why is cylinder deactivation a "WTF"?

He probably still thinks you can notice a delay when it switches from 4 to 6 on throttle application.

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

That's pretty much what you can get an Ecoboost Mustang up to. I think MT's tester was 36-37k.. Just don't get all the freaking options?

Why is cylinder deactivation a "WTF"?

Maybe they've improved it, but I doubt it. It was dumb, dumb decision on the V8. The special lifters they use are known to fail, it sounded like crap with any aftermarket exhaust, and in the end, it didn't improve fuel economy anyway. With the V6, who wants to be driving around a 3-cylinder car? Just my opinion, but I'm not a fan of AFM, at all. Who buys a sports car for good MPG?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by E.T.

Maybe they've improved it, but I doubt it. It was dumb, dumb decision on the V8. The special lifters they use are known to fail, it sounded like crap with any aftermarket exhaust, and in the end, it didn't improve fuel economy anyway. With the V6, who wants to be driving around a 3-cylinder car? Just my opinion, but I'm not a fan of AFM, at all. Who buys a sports car for good MPG?

Who buys a V6 sports car when they can buy a V8? The people who can't afford V8 gas mileage. So AFM is more at home on the V6 than anywhere else because a vast majority of people will be buying them because they can't afford the SS.

And AFM drops it from 6 to 4 cylinders. Not sure where the reviewer got 3 from. Also read the C7 forums about AFM. You will notice many of the problems in the L99 have been addressed in the LT1, including drone.

[Curr]

Another case of "I'll imagine all these bad things so in my mind my car is better"?

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Who buys a V6 sports car when they can buy a V8? The people who can't afford V8 gas mileage. So AFM is more at home on the V6 than anywhere else because a vast majority of people will be buying them because they can't afford the SS.

And AFM drops it from 6 to 4 cylinders. Not sure where the reviewer got 3 from. Also read the C7 forums about AFM. You will notice many of the problems in the L99 have been addressed in the LT1, including drone.

I guess, but I would never buy another sports car with this AFM crap on it. Imagine buying a brand new Stingray and then having to void the powertrain warranty by tuning out AFM. As far as affordability, I'm not sure if that's why everyone buys a 6 vs an 8. In some cases, yes. Anyway, I wouldn't call $38K cheap.

Originally Posted by Curr

Another case of "I'll imagine all these bad things so in my mind my car is better"?

My car is better In all seriousness, though, not trying to start a C5 vs C6 war, but just saying, I'm glad I got in when I did with the 5th gen. If I had to buy a new Camaro today, I think I'd be looking at other cars in that price range like Audi, BMW, etc.

[bhavyas]

You cant make the V6 into a 3 cylinder engine... there will be too much imbalance within the engine.. Hence they decide to make 4 cylinder and cut off 2 cylinders.. On the SS the reason AFM was introduced was probably to avoid the gas guzzler tax...

[Mr Snappy]

Originally Posted by Curr

Another case of "I'll imagine all these bad things so in my mind my car is better"?

Bingo

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by E.T.

I guess, but I would never buy another sports car with this AFM crap on it. Imagine buying a brand new Stingray and then having to void the powertrain warranty by tuning out AFM. As far as affordability, I'm not sure if that's why everyone buys a 6 vs an 8. In some cases, yes. Anyway, I wouldn't call $38K cheap.



My car is better In all seriousness, though, not trying to start a C5 vs C6 war, but just saying, I'm glad I got in when I did with the 5th gen. If I had to buy a new Camaro today, I think I'd be looking at other cars in that price range like Audi, BMW, etc.

Oh I agree. You can get a '16 1SS with NPP for that much which beats a similar priced '15 1LE in every performance metric and actually doesn't look like a 2008 Cobalt on the inside. $38k is also the MSRP which means it had every option available. How many people who look for a deal actually pay that much? You can load a 2015 2LT right now close to that but not have anywhere near the features of the 2016 at the same time. Once the hype wears off, the V6 cars will start having some good deals on them and people will be getting nicely equipped 2LTs for $30k.

And just for reference, my '14 328i MSRP was $50k. It is not even close in terms of features and tech as this 2LT tester has. Not to mention it out performs my 328i in every category except fuel economy. So I know I would never pick a similarly priced BMW or Audi over this 2LT.

[Zack46]

"The New Camaro is a Traffic Stopper"

-USA Today


Chevy deserves a slice of apple pie for hitting a homerun!!

[DenverTaco07]

Anybody watch The Big Bang Theory?

"Sheldon....GO AWAY!!"

[Zack46]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

. Once the hype wears off, the V6 cars will start having some good deals on them and people will be getting nicely equipped 2LTs for $30k.

Getting nicely equipped 2LTs for $30k.

Good Luck with that, Bro.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Zack46

Getting nicely equipped 2LTs for $30k.

Good Luck with that, Bro.

I'm not talking about the loaded $38k one. But I think getting $4k off with incentives and dealing is definitely possible.