05-22-2014, 11:49 PM | #1 |
Wheel Hop Issues
So tonight I was messing around with a guy in a modded 240SX. I dumped the clutch at 3500 no traction control. Instead of the wheels spinning they hopped uncontrollably. I need tires extremely bad, they should be here Saturday. Just any ideas or anyone else with this issue? Maybe solid subframe bushings? Scared the s**t out of me.
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05-23-2014, 06:11 AM | #2 | |
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05-23-2014, 06:18 AM | #3 |
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I would increase your tire pressure, this will "round" out the wheels a bit and they should not hop at all or as easily. Run them around 37-38 lbs.
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05-23-2014, 06:31 AM | #4 | |
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05-23-2014, 08:26 AM | #5 |
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Did you push traction control for 7 seconds ?
Wheel hop has only happened to me with it on. |
05-23-2014, 11:46 AM | #6 | |
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OP if you plan to be hitting the drag strip looking for 10s then do it all. But just to reduce wheelhop you could start just by adding aftermarket Trailing Arms and also the outer TA bushing. This could be DIY project and the cost is very reasonable. One advantage the ZL1 has over the standard SS is it has a better Toe Rod setup. But this can be improved on with aftermarket Toe Rods as a next step. If you replace the Toe Rods an alignment will be needed. The rest of the bushings are only only for the very experienced DIYer. And the more hard bushings you add you will experience a little more NVH, especially with the differential bushings. Also keep in mind there is some difference of opinion regarding adding stronger Toe Rods and Trailing Arms. If you happen to slide into a curb fairly hard you might be more likely to sustain frame damage over the weaker stock parts. Something to think about. I think those ZL1 Goodyears are a part of the blame for the wheelhop. They are not a good choice as a street tire, but when warm are great on a track. When they are not warm, or the street is cold, or improperly inflated they spin and hop like mad. My 1LE is around 550 RWHP, right around ZL1 numbers. and I have only the Trailing Arms and outer TA bushings. With the Goodyears on my wheelhop is still bad at the drag strip on a day below 60 degrees and on the street. But with my DRs, wheelhop is not a problem on either surface, even if I am a bit aggressive. I think something like the Michelin Pilot Super Sports is a better choice overall than the Goodyears if tracking is not your top priority. And the latest version of these tires may not be far behind the Goodyears at the (road) track.
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05-24-2014, 09:02 AM | #7 |
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The stock GY's are hockey pucks and airing them up past the recommended 32 psi will make it worse. I run MT DR's with an adjustable Pfadt rear sway bar and get zero wheel hop.
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05-26-2014, 04:28 PM | #8 |
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I run mine at 38 psi and I have no problems whatsoever. No hopping, no skipping, nothing but really great gas mileage. If you know how to drive this car well, it will drive better with more air in the tires. if you mush the accelerator pedal without any consideration for the cars' power, then you will have a huge problem with 38 psi, but I can tell you the problem will not include wheel hop.
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