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05-05-2021, 06:50 PM
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Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Worthington
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So I am adding more mods to my car -
TSP Stage 3 Cam with VVT delete 25%powerbond pulley ZL1 fuel pump Corsa Extreme Cat-Back Full-Suspension Bigger tires Connection Pipes 3.91 gear ratio Was wondering should I go up in Fuel injectors size - cause I believe the stock is 42lbs? my target goal at flywheel is 600hp with 8 injectors, BSFC .5 and 80% duty cycle would put the injector size to roughly 46.9lbs/hr
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TSP Stage 2 L99VVT-2.2 Camshaft 227/239, .629/.629, 113 LSA, Circle D Converter 3000-3200 PRC 260cc, Cylinder Head (Ported for the camshaft)
TSP.660" Dual Spring Kit w/ PAC Dual Springs & Titanium Retainers, 2.165"/1.59" Stainless Valves w/ Hollow Stem Intake, Comp Phase Limiter, 7.5" Push Length Rod, New GM VVT Camshaft Bolts, D.O.D Delete Kit, Ported Intake Manifold, Kooks High Flow Catted-Long Tube Headers, Flowmaster Outlaw Cat-back Exhausts Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake, 95MM Throttle Body Tuned on 91 Octane Gas |
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05-05-2021, 06:57 PM
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Wait, 600hp without forced induction or bigger block? Not gonna happen.
ZL1 fuel pump isn't needed nor injectors...UNLESS you are doing e85, but then you are gonna need more stuff. Also, with a 2013, I wouldn't do the pulley, you already have electronic steering so you don't lose nearly as much as the 2010/2011 cars. What does 'full suspension' mean/entail?
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R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete |
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05-05-2021, 07:29 PM
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Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Worthington
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I already have the pump and pulley system in so there are going into the car Control arm, trailing arms bushing, toe rods, sway bars etc.
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TSP Stage 2 L99VVT-2.2 Camshaft 227/239, .629/.629, 113 LSA, Circle D Converter 3000-3200 PRC 260cc, Cylinder Head (Ported for the camshaft)
TSP.660" Dual Spring Kit w/ PAC Dual Springs & Titanium Retainers, 2.165"/1.59" Stainless Valves w/ Hollow Stem Intake, Comp Phase Limiter, 7.5" Push Length Rod, New GM VVT Camshaft Bolts, D.O.D Delete Kit, Ported Intake Manifold, Kooks High Flow Catted-Long Tube Headers, Flowmaster Outlaw Cat-back Exhausts Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake, 95MM Throttle Body Tuned on 91 Octane Gas |
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05-05-2021, 08:03 PM
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Assume 20% drivetrain loss, so 600flywheel you'd need 480 RWHP?
I haven't heard anyone at 480 RWHP needing upgraded injectors, but it's your money. GPI has some good info on it: https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showp...19&postcount=7
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"A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..."
R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete |
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05-05-2021, 08:05 PM
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Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Worthington
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TSP Stage 2 L99VVT-2.2 Camshaft 227/239, .629/.629, 113 LSA, Circle D Converter 3000-3200 PRC 260cc, Cylinder Head (Ported for the camshaft)
TSP.660" Dual Spring Kit w/ PAC Dual Springs & Titanium Retainers, 2.165"/1.59" Stainless Valves w/ Hollow Stem Intake, Comp Phase Limiter, 7.5" Push Length Rod, New GM VVT Camshaft Bolts, D.O.D Delete Kit, Ported Intake Manifold, Kooks High Flow Catted-Long Tube Headers, Flowmaster Outlaw Cat-back Exhausts Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake, 95MM Throttle Body Tuned on 91 Octane Gas |
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05-05-2021, 08:06 PM
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Drives: 5th Gen Camaro; 5th Gen Ram 3500 Join Date: Mar 2018
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Just get some FAST injectors. Theyre cheap everywhere
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05-05-2021, 08:18 PM
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Ok, what is your goal with this car? Daily? Track only? Mix? If mix, what percent daily, what track/strip?
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"A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..."
R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete |
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05-05-2021, 08:26 PM
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Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Worthington
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My ultimate goal will be eventually Supercharging my car but First I have to first school, almost done, that why I been doing little by little or just the "small" modifications first. If that make sense
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TSP Stage 2 L99VVT-2.2 Camshaft 227/239, .629/.629, 113 LSA, Circle D Converter 3000-3200 PRC 260cc, Cylinder Head (Ported for the camshaft)
TSP.660" Dual Spring Kit w/ PAC Dual Springs & Titanium Retainers, 2.165"/1.59" Stainless Valves w/ Hollow Stem Intake, Comp Phase Limiter, 7.5" Push Length Rod, New GM VVT Camshaft Bolts, D.O.D Delete Kit, Ported Intake Manifold, Kooks High Flow Catted-Long Tube Headers, Flowmaster Outlaw Cat-back Exhausts Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake, 95MM Throttle Body Tuned on 91 Octane Gas |
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05-05-2021, 09:00 PM
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Small mods aren't heads/cam/gears/and all the other stuff you've done.
 If you are gonna SC I might hold off on the 3.91s otherwise traction will be HARD to come by. Well, that is unless you go with a Centri...
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"A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..."
R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete |
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05-06-2021, 10:23 AM
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Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013
Location: DFW
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600HP N/A can be done with the right configuration and supporting mods. Before buying random parts my biggest advise is to blue print the build and start with supporting mods you will need and how much drivability you can sacrifice. Cost wise can get near boosted cost just give your self a realist goal for the car.
What heads, cam lobe profile, head gasket, lifters, valvetrain etc... are the main things to look into. I'd be happy to help if you need someone to bounce ideas with. I've done it all and have helped other people meet their goal. N/A stuff is my bread and butter
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05-06-2021, 11:07 AM
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Drives: 2015 2SS/1LE Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Indiana
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I was a little over 500whp on my build with stock injectors and fuel pump. No problems so far.
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SOLD 2015 - 2SS/1LE l Livernois 2RMax Cam Package l Livernois Ported Heads l BW Ported Throttle Body l TSP 1-7/8 Headers l CAI Intake l Factory NPP Exhaust l MSD Plug Wires l 508whp
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05-06-2021, 11:52 AM
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Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011
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TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.
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05-06-2021, 12:30 PM
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Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019
Location: Connecticut
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I'd leave the fuel system alone until you go FI you will be fine NA. If you get injectors now you'll be buying more when you go FI. I can attest 3.91's will be rough on traction. I have none in first now and fight traction in 2nd with 3.45's
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05-10-2021, 11:46 PM
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Drives: 13 1LE 1SS/05 ZX10/02 Silverado/14 Join Date: Nov 2014
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