GM WARRANTY FOR TRACK USE? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

thespymaster · 02-08-2012, 12:54 PM

So maybe I missed it somewhere on a previous post, but what is going to be the warranty status if you put your ZL1 on track/strip?

I haven't been able to find any official GM warranty guide to cover for track use, for a car that has been designed by GM for the track!

So someone chime in on that please!

Buffnshine · 02-08-2012, 12:56 PM

good question spy, since that is waht they are marketing the car for

HEMI DAVE · 02-08-2012, 01:03 PM

I would think you would be red flaged

That goes for Ford and Chrysler also.........

......but I am just guessing

htron50 · 02-08-2012, 01:09 PM

I'm guessing it will be taken on a case by case basis. Professional race = NO. Weekend warrior sometimes and you stayed within driving guidelines = YES. There is a paragraph in the manual that says not to change the PTM system while moving or it will result in damage that is not covered under warranty. It is a warning to use properly.

I believe that based on their marketing and the manual they have an implied warranty for racing. It does not EXPLICITY prohibit racing from what I have seen. Fords does so.

Now if you have NON stock tires and rip out a rear end, I would figure its your dime. You put on a CAI, or anything non stock mechanically, its your dime.

If you put on decals/wraps it surely would hurt your paint warranty!

Just my opinion at this time. So, don't get po'd at my interpretations.

thespymaster · 02-08-2012, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

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I believe that based on their marketing and the manual they have an implied warranty for racing. It does not EXPLICITY prohibit racing from what I have seen.

With all the various GM brass on this website, I would like to see an official reply.

My clarification, keeping the ZL1 completely stock as delivered and say participating in the LSX Challenge Race Class "Nitto Tire 5th Gen Camaro Challenge "

mickey123456 · 02-08-2012, 01:23 PM

Read the owners manual. It covers racing and teaches you how to properly prep the car, and what mode to have it in. The owner's manual basically tells you to race it. The warranty does cover racing and drag strip sessions just as long as you do what is outlined in the owners manual.

slick rick · 02-08-2012, 01:23 PM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200828

The ZL1 manual says

Quote:

Racing or Other Competitive Driving Racing or competitive driving may affect the vehicle warranty. See the warranty book before using the vehicle for racing or other competitive driving.

Where can we find a copy of the 2012 warranty book?

htron50 · 02-08-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thespymaster

With all the various GM brass on this website, I would like to see an official reply.

My clarification, keeping the ZL1 completely stock as delivered and say participating in the LSX Challenge Race Class "Nitto Tire 5th Gen Camaro Challenge "

Would that mean using Nitto tires instead of stock tires?

Wondering · 02-08-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

I'm guessing it will be taken on a case by case basis. Professional race = NO. Weekend warrior sometimes and you stayed within driving guidelines = YES. There is a paragraph in the manual that says not to change the PTM system while moving or it will result in damage that is not covered under warranty. It is a warning to use properly.

I believe that based on their marketing and the manual they have an implied warranty for racing. It does not EXPLICITY prohibit racing from what I have seen. Fords does so.

Now if you have NON stock tires and rip out a rear end, I would figure its your dime. You put on a CAI, or anything non stock mechanically, its your dime.

If you put on decals/wraps it surely would hurt your paint warranty!

Just my opinion at this time. So, don't get po'd at my interpretations.

Corvette owners have been saying this since 2002 when the C5 Z06 was introduced. The car even came with a video detailing how to put negative camber in when tracking the car. Along with a few other pointers.

But owners found out quick that if anything broke at the track,it was on their dime,not GM's. Over the past 10 years there have been countless threads over at Corvette Forum where a bone stock car was denied warranty coverage(powertrain).

The simple answer is to read the exclusions section in your warranty booklet.

htron50 · 02-08-2012, 01:33 PM

OK...... I found this on the ZL1 website.... Its on page 10

http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/p...hev_lim_wm.pdf

The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover damage caused as the result of any of the following:
. Collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion,
or objects striking the vehicle.
. Misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper vehicle use is discussed in the owner manual.

Edit: Now, since it says proper use is discussed in the owner manual, and the owner manual describes how to race it, there is a conflict that needs to be resolved!!
They both can't be correct???

PS: It's HALFTIME at the PLANT and the SECOND HALF IS GETTING READY TO START!!!!

thespymaster · 02-08-2012, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

Would that mean using Nitto tires instead of stock tires?

NITTO just sponsors the event, you can run stock 100%

thespymaster · 02-08-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

. Misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper vehicle use is discussed in the owner manual.

Edit: Now, since it says proper use is discussed in the owner manual, and the owner manual describes how to race it, there is a conflict that needs to be resolved!!
They both can't be correct???

PS: It's HALFTIME at the PLANT and the SECOND HALF IS GETTING READY TO START!!!!

Exactly my point!!

I would like Al Oppenheiser or some other CamaroTeam member to clarifiy this without all the ambiguity.

hognutz · 02-08-2012, 02:31 PM

Am I the only person that does not have a problem with just lying? If I broke my car at the dragstrip I would drop at at the dealer and just say it broke under normal conditions.

The same way they try to lie and tell me things are normal to get out of fixing things.

BowtieBelle · 02-08-2012, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hognutz

Am I the only person that does not have a problem with just lying? If I broke my car at the dragstrip I would drop at at the dealer and just say it broke under normal conditions.

The same way they try to lie and tell me things are normal to get out of fixing things.

This. Have it towed off the track. Simple.

02-08-2012, 12:54 PM	#1
thespymaster Drives: C7 / ZL1 / SS / trucsk Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: G4 CLASSIFIED Posts: 4,533 View My Garage	GM WARRANTY FOR TRACK USE? So maybe I missed it somewhere on a previous post, but what is going to be the warranty status if you put your ZL1 on track/strip? I haven't been able to find any official GM warranty guide to cover for track use, for a car that has been designed by GM for the track! So someone chime in on that please! __________________ 2014 C7 Stingray 3LT/Z51 2013 Camaro SS 2012 Camaro ZL1 - 850 HP 2015 GMC Denali 3500HD 4x4 2012 GMC Sierra 3500HD 4x4

02-08-2012, 12:56 PM	#2
Buffnshine So Cal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: '10 SS/RS, '06 HHR, '70 El Camino Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,589 View My Garage	good question spy, since that is waht they are marketing the car for __________________ TEAM L99 - So Cal Camaro5 Race Team #27 9/5/09 Purchased #36962 Black 1SS/RS L99 "E-TCKT" Base Dyno 328hp/341tq @BBK meet Mods to Date: Window Tint 5% & 15%, ACC P13W Lighting, Adaptive DRL Harness, Ghost Armor, Lloyds "SS" Mats, Dash Plaque, Flowmaster Outlaw Exhaust, Drake Front Bowtie Delete, Stealth 3457 Chrome/Mirror Signal Bulbs, Grant Revolutions Steering Wheel, PFADT Sport Springs, Sway Bars, End Links, Trailing Arms, 4 Wheel Alignment, Hurst Auto Shifter and Paddle Shifter, Satin Black Rear Tail Light Bezels

02-08-2012, 01:03 PM	#3
HEMI DAVE Drives: 2016 Z06, 2015 Hellcat Challenger, Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: LONG ISLAND,NEW YORK Posts: 658 View My Garage	I would think you would be red flaged That goes for Ford and Chrysler also......... ......but I am just guessing __________________ https://youtu.be/TwShzNV7w5s

02-08-2012, 02:31 PM	#13
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	Am I the only person that does not have a problem with just lying? If I broke my car at the dragstrip I would drop at at the dealer and just say it broke under normal conditions. The same way they try to lie and tell me things are normal to get out of fixing things. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

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02-08-2012, 01:09 PM	#4
htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	I'm guessing it will be taken on a case by case basis. Professional race = NO. Weekend warrior sometimes and you stayed within driving guidelines = YES. There is a paragraph in the manual that says not to change the PTM system while moving or it will result in damage that is not covered under warranty. It is a warning to use properly. I believe that based on their marketing and the manual they have an implied warranty for racing. It does not EXPLICITY prohibit racing from what I have seen. Fords does so. Now if you have NON stock tires and rip out a rear end, I would figure its your dime. You put on a CAI, or anything non stock mechanically, its your dime. If you put on decals/wraps it surely would hurt your paint warranty! Just my opinion at this time. So, don't get po'd at my interpretations.

02-08-2012, 01:23 PM	#6
mickey123456 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: ZL1 Posts: 98	Read the owners manual. It covers racing and teaches you how to properly prep the car, and what mode to have it in. The owner's manual basically tells you to race it. The warranty does cover racing and drag strip sessions just as long as you do what is outlined in the owners manual.

02-08-2012, 01:33 PM	#10
htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	OK...... I found this on the ZL1 website.... Its on page 10 http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/p...hev_lim_wm.pdf The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover damage caused as the result of any of the following: . Collision, fire, theft, freezing, vandalism, riot, explosion, or objects striking the vehicle. . Misuse of the vehicle such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition. Proper vehicle use is discussed in the owner manual. Edit: Now, since it says proper use is discussed in the owner manual, and the owner manual describes how to race it, there is a conflict that needs to be resolved!! They both can't be correct??? PS: It's HALFTIME at the PLANT and the SECOND HALF IS GETTING READY TO START!!!!