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Old 02-19-2016, 12:16 PM   #1
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sale it or sleeve it?

i have been debating for a few months to sleeve her or or just sale as is and buy a new block...she has about 52k miles ...28k boosted... zoom in on the lifter bore and tell me what u think...Thanks!
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:31 PM   #2
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I'd sale it off into the sunset.
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:39 PM   #3
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It doesn't look that bad but send it to a machine shop have them magnaflux it.
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:17 PM   #4
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Send it to ERL . Have them look it over and go from there .. And they let you know if it's worth keeping .. Plus they can sleeve it
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:40 PM   #5
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It's junk sell it to me for $100 ��
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:27 AM   #6
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The bearing surface looks like crapola too.... new block $1200.... the lifter bore....bore it sleeve it, then you also have to pull and reinstall the bearings and drill out the sleeve that was put in.... weigh the costs to reassemble with new bearings and if you trust it... and yes you might get 100$..lol for the bare block, as you know blocks can only be over honed to .020 max as the sleeves in the block are cast in and you are most likely due for new rings and a fresh hone .005 at least so it adds up with 80k on the odometer.
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Old 02-20-2016, 11:42 AM   #7
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Use it as a core and get an ERL short block.


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Old 02-20-2016, 01:02 PM   #8
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The bearing surface looks like crapola too.... new block $1200.... the lifter bore....bore it sleeve it, then you also have to pull and reinstall the bearings and drill out the sleeve that was put in.... weigh the costs to reassemble with new bearings and if you trust it... and yes you might get 100$..lol for the bare block, as you know blocks can only be over honed to .020 max as the sleeves in the block are cast in and you are most likely due for new rings and a fresh hone .005 at least so it adds up with 80k on the odometer.
Yea the cam got ****ed up too...I bought 4.070 wiesco 15cc gas ported pistons and bearing new rings and rods callies.I just want to do this shit once...Where can I get block for 1200? Cheapest I ve seen was 1400...
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You might be able to have it magnafluxed, but sell it, not worth the hassle
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:29 PM   #10
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Send it to ERL . Have them look it over and go from there .. And they let you know if it's worth keeping .. Plus they can sleeve it
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Any good local machine shop should give you the skinny on if its worth it. I bought my short block from Jerry at SAG performance group its called custom engine supply it sells strokers on E Bay, the shipping was free and they are in Indiana in Angola and they may get a price break, but your good parts you got could get cleaned up with bearings and put into a engine. It may not be that bad to some but I have tossed a old chevy freshly bored .030 over 400 because it had a bad lifter bore...it ate a cam..... SO parts went into another block.. And its hard to find good 400's even twenty years ago being that it was so good for torque for a SBC....

You have good parts so that's a good chunk of the cost, I paid 5 grand for a forged 428 with the rear seals etc all done up right but $2500 is for the crank and pistons and con rods, the rest clearancing, balancing, bearings, seals , assembly, and shipping etc... So you may have 80k on the engine or reading you say 28 boosted of the 50k ish which is a case of failure down the road. Lifter fell apart? did it wear into the cam in other places or simple lifter fail? I use driven racing oil and use the br30 for a double break in and ls30 for life..... I would of course ditch that cylinders rocker, and of course new pushrods and lifters all around with new trays head bolts.... it adds up. DO a good break in and still things can fail.... Shame. Good Luck anyway. Keep us up dated in the long run, though threads do have a way of getting old fast in other places on the forum and moving down the list..
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:10 PM   #12
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is sleeving it less expensive than getting a new block?
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:24 PM   #13
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Any good local machine shop should give you the skinny on if its worth it. I bought my short block from Jerry at SAG performance group its called custom engine supply it sells strokers on E Bay, the shipping was free and they are in Indiana in Angola and they may get a price break, but your good parts you got could get cleaned up with bearings and put into a engine. It may not be that bad to some but I have tossed a old chevy freshly bored .030 over 400 because it had a bad lifter bore...it ate a cam..... SO parts went into another block.. And its hard to find good 400's even twenty years ago being that it was so good for torque for a SBC....

You have good parts so that's a good chunk of the cost, I paid 5 grand for a forged 428 with the rear seals etc all done up right but $2500 is for the crank and pistons and con rods, the rest clearancing, balancing, bearings, seals , assembly, and shipping etc... So you may have 80k on the engine or reading you say 28 boosted of the 50k ish which is a case of failure down the road. Lifter fell apart? did it wear into the cam in other places or simple lifter fail? I use driven racing oil and use the br30 for a double break in and ls30 for life..... I would of course ditch that cylinders rocker, and of course new pushrods and lifters all around with new trays head bolts.... it adds up. DO a good break in and still things can fail.... Shame. Good Luck anyway. Keep us up dated in the long run, though threads do have a way of getting old fast in other places on the forum and moving down the list..
Well the lifter failed causing it to eat the very first lobe of the cam up...the push rod is a manley 7.4 not bent either...i stop driving it once i heard the valve wasnt opening. I have Johnson link bar lifters now....so hopefully nomore hickups..I didnt have a oil cooler either..now i do.
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