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Old 11-15-2019, 05:14 PM   #6763
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What would you say if I told you HUMMER was coming back?


What if I told you it would be all electric vehicles?

I read an article not long ago which basically said that if the Hummer H2 and H3 came out today, they'd likely be more popular than they were at the time considering today's Truck and SUV boom. I have to say that I kind of agree with that. I'm saying with ICE engines and all.

But I have also heard GM could be considering Hummer for an all electric future. Hrrrmmm….we'll see!

Side note: What do you guys think about that Mustang Mach-E all electric SUV that is coming? Pictures and information leaked today. I have to say...I like it overall in the "GT" trim below. I'm not sure about the colored grille. Shaved door handles are nice. It also bugs me that they are calling it a "Mustang" and it even has the Mustang emblem on it (It's not a damn Mustang). The other thing that dings me is that they are using a huge Tesla style screen in the middle of the interior dash. Ugh...I can't stand the Tesla 3 interior.

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Old 11-15-2019, 07:13 PM   #6764
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Hummers aren't pickups*, and yes it's me because we don't have the infrastructure for it at this time.

Oh, and my current truck get's very good fuel mileage so no, I won't be buying a 100K electric any time soon.
But the logic still applies for the brand. Hummer is supposedly built around being the ultimate in off-roading. Not being able to venture too far from civilization kinda runs counter to that.

*some of them were & were dubbed 'SUT's' for Sport Utility Truck. But thats secondary to the point either of us were making.
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Old 11-16-2019, 11:20 AM   #6765
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Side note: What do you guys think about that Mustang Mach-E all electric SUV that is coming? Pictures and information leaked today. I have to say...I like it overall in the "GT" trim below. I'm not sure about the colored grille. Shaved door handles are nice. It also bugs me that they are calling it a "Mustang" and it even has the Mustang emblem on it (It's not a damn Mustang). The other thing that dings me is that they are using a huge Tesla style screen in the middle of the interior dash. Ugh...I can't stand the Tesla 3 interior.
I don't get this at all from any angle. Why not just a Edge or Escape variant? This pisses me off more than the Blazer nameplate on a CUV without offroad chops.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:23 PM   #6766
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I read an article not long ago which basically said that if the Hummer H2 and H3 came out today, they'd likely be more popular than they were at the time considering today's Truck and SUV boom. I have to say that I kind of agree with that. I'm saying with ICE engines and all.

But I have also heard GM could be considering Hummer for an all electric future. Hrrrmmm….we'll see!

Side note: What do you guys think about that Mustang Mach-E all electric SUV that is coming? Pictures and information leaked today. I have to say...I like it overall in the "GT" trim below. I'm not sure about the colored grille. Shaved door handles are nice. It also bugs me that they are calling it a "Mustang" and it even has the Mustang emblem on it (It's not a damn Mustang). The other thing that dings me is that they are using a huge Tesla style screen in the middle of the interior dash. Ugh...I can't stand the Tesla 3 interior.

Personally I think the design and specs of the Mach E are a good move by Ford. It needs to NOT be an electric version of an existing vehicle and it needs to NOT look like other EVs on the road. They’ve succeeded at that. Using Mustang design cues has produced a nice looking vehicle, especially by electric vehicle standards.

They are taking risks with using the Mach E name. The pitchforks and torches came out hard on Mustang6 when they implied at their 2018 NAIAS Press Conference that the EV might be named Mach 1. The outrage subsided a lot, but not totally, when the Mach E name leaked out. But spiked again when it was confirmed that it would carry the Mustang name and running pony badge.

The hard-core Mustang fans carrying the pitchforks and torches would probably never consider buying the vehicle no matter what it is called. Those who buy the vehicle at this point in time are pretty much already EV intenders. Putting the Mustang name on it could sway people who think the Mustang is cool, but for practical reasons, would probably never own one. Unless people are saying “I will now change my mind on buying a Mustang GT because the idea of a Mach E offends me that much” then Ford is in a safe spot with the name. It is literally the Mustang of electric vehicles.

Now, having said all that, I have high confidence that Ford has another “surprise” announcement that they’ll drop when they intro the Mach E. Can’t say any more about that due to an embargo situation with my source. Mustang fans will be very happy. Even the ones with pitchforks and torches.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:18 PM   #6767
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Now, having said all that, I have high confidence that Ford has another “surprise” announcement that they’ll drop when they intro the Mach E. Can’t say any more about that due to an embargo situation with my source. Mustang fans will be very happy. Even the ones with pitchforks and torches.
So hybrid V8 Mustang. Got it.
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Old 11-16-2019, 05:58 PM   #6768
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Or all electric Mustang with Tesla speed????
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:23 AM   #6769
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Hummer truck/SUV for 2021
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:17 AM   #6770
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But the logic still applies for the brand. Hummer is supposedly built around being the ultimate in off-roading. Not being able to venture too far from civilization kinda runs counter to that.

*some of them were & were dubbed 'SUT's' for Sport Utility Truck. But thats secondary to the point either of us were making.
I completely agree. However - 99.9% were pavement pounders with Dubs downtown...and to recognize that reality, and market to it is pretty smart.
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:34 AM   #6771
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I read an article not long ago which basically said that if the Hummer H2 and H3 came out today, they'd likely be more popular than they were at the time considering today's Truck and SUV boom. I have to say that I kind of agree with that. I'm saying with ICE engines and all.

But I have also heard GM could be considering Hummer for an all electric future. Hrrrmmm….we'll see!

Side note: What do you guys think about that Mustang Mach-E all electric SUV that is coming? Pictures and information leaked today. I have to say...I like it overall in the "GT" trim below. I'm not sure about the colored grille. Shaved door handles are nice. It also bugs me that they are calling it a "Mustang" and it even has the Mustang emblem on it (It's not a damn Mustang). The other thing that dings me is that they are using a huge Tesla style screen in the middle of the interior dash. Ugh...I can't stand the Tesla 3 interior.

I think it is ridiculous and pure folly. It exacerbates the crossover and hybrid genres and disrespects the heritage of the Mustang. It is much better IMO to cancel a model and move on as opposed to just pasting a nameplate on something hoping that it will sell.
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Personally I think the design and specs of the Mach E are a good move by Ford. It needs to NOT be an electric version of an existing vehicle and it needs to NOT look like other EVs on the road. They’ve succeeded at that. Using Mustang design cues has produced a nice looking vehicle, especially by electric vehicle standards.

They are taking risks with using the Mach E name. The pitchforks and torches came out hard on Mustang6 when they implied at their 2018 NAIAS Press Conference that the EV might be named Mach 1. The outrage subsided a lot, but not totally, when the Mach E name leaked out. But spiked again when it was confirmed that it would carry the Mustang name and running pony badge.

The hard-core Mustang fans carrying the pitchforks and torches would probably never consider buying the vehicle no matter what it is called. Those who buy the vehicle at this point in time are pretty much already EV intenders. Putting the Mustang name on it could sway people who think the Mustang is cool, but for practical reasons, would probably never own one. Unless people are saying “I will now change my mind on buying a Mustang GT because the idea of a Mach E offends me that much” then Ford is in a safe spot with the name. It is literally the Mustang of electric vehicles.

Now, having said all that, I have high confidence that Ford has another “surprise” announcement that they’ll drop when they intro the Mach E. Can’t say any more about that due to an embargo situation with my source. Mustang fans will be very happy. Even the ones with pitchforks and torches.
Agree for the most part above ^ I just think using mustang name was a mistake.

Big announcement.....Mach 1 returning????
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Agree for the most part above ^ I just think using mustang name was a mistake.
So do I. I just understand why they did it. If I was king of FoMoCo I would have named it Torino. People of a certain age will remember that Torino was a fairly cool, sometimes fast stylish coupe. With or without white lightning stripe .

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Embargo. Until it’s lifted I have nothing to say
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So do I. I just understand why they did it. If I was king of FoMoCo I would have named it Torino. People of a certain age will remember that Torino was a fairly cool, sometimes fast stylish coupe. With or without white lightning stripe .



Embargo. Until it’s lifted I have nothing to say
To me, it basically tells me that Ford wants to start having Mustang basically like it's own little sub brand.

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