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Ripptide56 · 01-06-2010, 10:23 AM

I took my SS to the dealer to have the check valve installed today and while I was there I asked about tuning my car and how it would affect my warranty. He said " Get one of the hand held tuners and if you have to bring it back to us flash it back to your original tune and you will be fine." then he started naming a for tuners to use(the only one I remember him saying was diablo). Take that info with a grain of salt,but I did just want to pass it along. Still havent decided to tune mine yet,but I am getting a little bit closer.LOL

2010 2-Tone · 01-06-2010, 10:34 AM

Same here. I want that extra hp but don't want to lose warr. I am sure I will go ahead with it in the next 6 months or so.

CamaroScotty · 01-06-2010, 01:06 PM

any change will show up in the car's computer....that means tuned then back to stock. You're cars are connected to gm via the web, and a snapshot is taken.

Maybe talk to a tech there in the shop.

honeybucket99 · 01-06-2010, 02:48 PM

So, Scotty, what you are saying is cancel big brother OnStar, then tune?

DangerZL1 · 01-06-2010, 02:51 PM

I don't think OnStar has anything to do with this. The communication via the web could occur if the car was taken in for service.

Ripptide56 · 01-06-2010, 04:09 PM

I'm still on the fence about tuning my car. I also heard about "The Black Box" so to speak that keeps a record of all your flashes,etc. I really want to tune my car,but I dont want to have a major problem and be denied a warranty claim.

CamaroScotty · 01-06-2010, 04:21 PM

OnStar has nothing to do with it. When the car comes in for service, a cable is plugged into the port in the car....then info is sent to GM via the internet.

honeybucket99 · 01-06-2010, 04:36 PM

okay guys i guess this is a bit too serious to attempt levity

Waco · 01-06-2010, 04:40 PM

Unless the manufacturer can prove your actions/mods/abuse/neglect directly caused the breakage your warranty cannot simply be invalidated on a whim. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects you.

SLOWHITE · 01-06-2010, 05:15 PM

Ther has been numerous bulletins put out by GM to the dealerships that if the ecm/tcm programming has been changed, the powertrain warranty will be voided.

PsyDoc · 01-06-2010, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waco

Unless the manufacturer can prove your actions/mods/abuse/neglect directly caused the breakage your warranty cannot simply be invalidated on a whim. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects you.

On paper...yes. In reality, no...the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act does not protect one like it probably should. You put in a new cam and add headers that voids your power train warranty. A few months later, when a power window switch shorts-out, the dealer cannot deny warranty work. However, if you have a future problem in the power train, then you have to prove that the problem is not related to or caused by the cam and headers that were installed. Technically, YOU have to prove that the actions/mods, etc. that you did had nothing to do with a particular failure.

rodimus prime · 01-06-2010, 05:28 PM

How is tuning a bolt on car any different than adjusting a carb on a bolt on car back in the day?

lee · 01-06-2010, 05:30 PM

guys with diesel trucks are tuning and chipping their trucks all the time if you know anyone like that ask them about it ive heard people say they gotten away with it before when they put it back to stock but losing my warrenty over a tune isnt a big enough deal for me to do

ffrcobra_65 · 01-06-2010, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodimus prime

How is tuning a bolt on car any different than adjusting a carb on a bolt on car back in the day?

there is a really good question!

01-06-2010, 10:23 AM	#1
Ripptide56 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Corpus Posts: 52	What my dealer said about tuning my car I took my SS to the dealer to have the check valve installed today and while I was there I asked about tuning my car and how it would affect my warranty. He said " Get one of the hand held tuners and if you have to bring it back to us flash it back to your original tune and you will be fine." then he started naming a for tuners to use(the only one I remember him saying was diablo). Take that info with a grain of salt,but I did just want to pass it along. Still havent decided to tune mine yet,but I am getting a little bit closer.LOL

01-06-2010, 05:15 PM	#10
SLOWHITE Drives: 2007 Trailblazer SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 102	Ther has been numerous bulletins put out by GM to the dealerships that if the ecm/tcm programming has been changed, the powertrain warranty will be voided. __________________ 07 Trailblazer SS awd. 13.08, Vector tune, SLOWHITE intake, ud pulley, 160* t-stat. My all year 'round, daily driven, boat pullin' Mustang beater.

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01-06-2010, 10:34 AM	#2
2010 2-Tone Drives: 2010 RY 2SS with Custom Stripes Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jennings, La. Posts: 2,220 View My Garage	Same here. I want that extra hp but don't want to lose warr. I am sure I will go ahead with it in the next 6 months or so.

01-06-2010, 01:06 PM	#3
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,801	any change will show up in the car's computer....that means tuned then back to stock. You're cars are connected to gm via the web, and a snapshot is taken. Maybe talk to a tech there in the shop.

01-06-2010, 02:48 PM	#4
honeybucket99 Drives: 2SS/RS CGM CAMARO BEAST Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: carrollton, ga Posts: 425	So, Scotty, what you are saying is cancel big brother OnStar, then tune?

01-06-2010, 02:51 PM	#5
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	I don't think OnStar has anything to do with this. The communication via the web could occur if the car was taken in for service.

01-06-2010, 04:09 PM	#6
Ripptide56 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Corpus Posts: 52	I'm still on the fence about tuning my car. I also heard about "The Black Box" so to speak that keeps a record of all your flashes,etc. I really want to tune my car,but I dont want to have a major problem and be denied a warranty claim.

01-06-2010, 04:21 PM	#7
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,801	OnStar has nothing to do with it. When the car comes in for service, a cable is plugged into the port in the car....then info is sent to GM via the internet.

01-06-2010, 04:36 PM	#8
honeybucket99 Drives: 2SS/RS CGM CAMARO BEAST Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: carrollton, ga Posts: 425	okay guys i guess this is a bit too serious to attempt levity

01-06-2010, 04:40 PM	#9
Waco Layla Drives: '10 2SS/RS, LS3, CGM/IO Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newport, RI Posts: 345	Unless the manufacturer can prove your actions/mods/abuse/neglect directly caused the breakage your warranty cannot simply be invalidated on a whim. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects you.

01-06-2010, 05:28 PM	#12
rodimus prime Account Suspended Drives: Cargo van. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Metal Metal Land Posts: 1,247	How is tuning a bolt on car any different than adjusting a carb on a bolt on car back in the day?

01-06-2010, 05:30 PM	#13
lee Drives: 2010 2ss/rs Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,016	guys with diesel trucks are tuning and chipping their trucks all the time if you know anyone like that ask them about it ive heard people say they gotten away with it before when they put it back to stock but losing my warrenty over a tune isnt a big enough deal for me to do